Harry Greb: 1917-1926

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  1. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Harry Greb​

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    From February 12, 1917 (defeats Willie 'KO' Brennan) to February 26, 1926 (controversial loss to Tiger Flowers) Harry Greb went 210-7. That's 210 victories to just 7 losses.

    Is this not the single greatest/most incredible run in boxing history?

    Greb, was on top of either the Middleweight or Light-Heavyweight division for the better part of this 9 year stretch.

    He defeated such Hall of Famers as:
    • Kid Norfolk
    • Mickey Walker
    • Gene Tunney
    • Tommy Gibbons 2x
    • Mike Gibbons
    • Tommy Loughran 4x
    • Jack Dillon 2x
    • Maxie Rosenbloom
    • Battling Levinsky 6x
    • Jimmy Slattery
    • Billy Miske 2x
    Defeated such champions (at one time or another) as:
    • George Chip 2x
    • Al McCoy 2x
    • Johnny Wilson 3x
    • Mike McTigue 2x
    Notable Heavyweights defeated:
    • Bill Brennan 4x
    • Jack Renault
    • Charley Weinart
    • Gunboat Smith 2x
    • Homer Smith
    • Martin Burke
    • Willie Meehan 2x
    • Bob Roper 6x
    Other notable victories:
    • Clay Turner
    • Tommy Robson
    • Silent Martin
    • Joe Borrell
    • Leo Houck 3x
    • Soldier Bartfield 3x
    • Eddie McGoorty
    • Gus Christie
    • Terry Martin
    • Buck Crouse
    • Frank Mantell
    • Willie 'KO' Brennan
    • Jeff Smith 6x
    • Jimmy Darcy 2x
    • Chuck Wiggins 8x
    • Billy Shade 2x
    • Lou Bogash
    • Bryan Downey
    • Jackie Clark 2x
    • Frank Moody
    • Ted Moore 2x
    • Jimmy Delaney 3x
    • Augie Ratner 2x
    • Jack Reddick
    • Roland Todd
    * Of Greb's 7 losses during this run -- 3 are considered, at least partially, controversial. (Vs Gene Tunney (2/23/1923), Vs Tommy Loughran (10/11/1923), Vs Kid Norfolk (DQ, 4/19/1924.)
     
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  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good job Unit. And remember in his "losses",they were against bigger LHs
    Fighting almost every TEN DAYS....Think of anyone fighting great fighters every 10 days, without giving your injuries time to heal from the previous fight...
    Picture a Marvin Hagler boxing an Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, a Jimmy Bivins etc, 10 days or so after their last bout,
    And an often 15 rounds affairs...?
    And he is besmirched by one of our posters :patsch
     
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  3. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolutely. And thank you for your input.

    All but one of Greb's 7 "losses" came to a Light-Heavyweight whom outweighed him. But he did beat each and every one of them at one point or another.

    Vs
    - Kid Norfolk 1-1 (loss on DQ)
    - Tommy Loughran 4-1-1
    - Gene Tunney 1-3-1 (Tunney only clearly won twice)
    - Tommy Gibbons 2-2
    - Soldier Bartfield 3-1-1

    By my money, Greb truly lost just 4 times during this stretch (twice to Tunney, Gibbons in '20, and to a lightning fast Soldier Bartfield in '17 who fought the performance of a lifetime and probably pulled off the single greatest win of all-time).
     
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  4. Seamus

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    I've stated it before but his record looks like science fiction, just ridiculous success against a ridiculously high level of competition.
     
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  5. NWS

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    So you dont agree with dinovelvet that he's a faux legend created by white people?




    :verysad
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'd hitch my wagon to that intellectual tour de force any day of the week.
     
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  7. LittleRed

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    Greb shamelessly ducked Asian fighters.
     
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  8. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Correct LR. And name me one Martian Greb had fought ?
     
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  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    due to the no film i sometimes forget about greb, then think 'why do these guys rate him so highly again?' because of this truly unbelievable record
     
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  10. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He ducked them too. And Russian fighters. And Atlantians (Atlantis was quite the fight Mecca before it went under, I'm told) and American Eskimos. I hear he even avoided the gay and transgender fighters that were flooding the pugilistic landscape back then.

    That damn Greb and his discriminatory practices! Quite the racist was Harry Greb. And homophobic too. What a hater! ;)
     
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  11. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The scoundrel ! Off with his neck....
     
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  12. McGrain

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    His neck?
     
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  13. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's such a rapscallion, we'll let him keep his head -- let's see what he does without a neck.
     
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  14. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hell, I haven't necked in years :patsch
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Never fought a heavyweight from Lilliput.
     
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