Joe Calzaghe's Victory over Hopkins is an ATG win

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Hopkins wasnt coming off a loss. Calzaghe beat Hopkins sandwiched between Hopkins best wins of Tarver, Wright and Pavlik.
Whos the other fighter you mention.

Still when you say this just look at how it looks for fighters like Dawson and Cloud fighting a far faded version and not able to beat Hopkins at first ask. also Dawsons best win is a 47 year old that lost to Calzaghe years earlier

 

At MW Hopkins was struggling and even then was the stronger fighter down the stretch having Taylor hurt.
Calzaghe beat Hopkins at LHW where he was rehydrated and looking his best, sandwiched between Hopkins best wins.
Consider that when you look at the official scorecards, Calzaghe in one fight is a wider winner than Taylor was in 2 wins over Hopkins on the official cards.
Calzaghe beat Hopkins when Hopkins was at his LHW best

 

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

 

Birmingham is known to be one of the most racist areas and you are clearly racist against Calzaghe.

I stated why and you failed to counter, then Bailey just went and exposed your racism further.

 

NO.

just was ATG robbery. Slapmaster was lucky to get the gift. atsch

 

Did he win?


Hopkins did some great subtle work in that fight that didn't seem to be picked up on. Thought he was the better fighter of the two. Either way, why bring this up now? Rain on Hopkins parade? Are Calzaghe fans that soft?

 

Ofc not cause i scored it for bhop,but what you gonna do.

 

Almost half of folks think Hopkins beat Calzaghe. On the other hand 4 years later Dawson won 9-10 rounds from Hopkins. Which is better?

 

Its highly debatable if he even won.

I had Joe winning, but.. it was not an easy task nor was it a petty affair.

 

Hopkins would of won against Joe if he hadn't said "i'll never lose to a white boy" before the fight.

 

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7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.



INCORRECT

 

Bernard didnt do **** the whole fight. He would land one shot on occasion. He got out worked an outlanded. If you have hopkins winning you know **** about about boxing.

 

Bhop won the fight . . . being more "active" does not make you more effective. you can throw a thousand slaps and none hit or are glancing blows and do very little damage. Bhop lost that fight with his dumbass comments before he even got into the ring. I actually went back and watch that **** fight (twice) because I wanted to make sure my assessment was correct . . . bhop should have one that fight . . . it was close bit very clear and anyone who can watch that fight objectively can only come to that conclusion. ( I am objective because I hate both guys)

 

did not read after number 1 because Joe slaps rather than punches . . . so the rest is obviously BS:bart