Calling Boxers with Losses undefeated

I have noticed Matthysse fans like to say he is 33-0, now Judah and Alexander were close fights but I feel like we must live with the outcomes, what are the non fan boy thoughts on this?

 

Pacquiao is truly undefeated..

1) he was just a kid when he got KO'd those first couple of times. those are basically ameteur fights.

2) he was robbed against Morales aside from the fact of having the wrong socks and being weakened by blood samples.

3) He easily beat Marquez in the first 3 fights.

4) He was robbed against Bradley

5) Marquez used steroids to KO manny in the 4rth fight. should be a NC.

#Unbeatable

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:rofl

 

I say the average ******* truly believes this

 

Well, my thoughts are that he has two defeats, only one of which I agree with. So in my eyes he has lost twice but every fight matters much more than just the outcome.

If I acknowledge it's a close fight even when scoring for the loser, I'll recognize the decision entirely, with the footnote that I disagree. Examples would be: Mundine/Geale I, Pacquiao/JMM II, Ioka/Yaegashi (had it a draw), YPH/Cunningham I, Povetkin/Huck (had it a draw), Mares/Darchinyan, etc.

Cases where I would begin to throw around "robbery" is when I think it's a solid 8-4 at least to the fighter who loses. Examples would be: Bradley/Pacquiao, Pacquiao/JMM III, Rios/Abril, Helenius/Chisora, Williams/Lara, etc.

 

Very well said the word robbery is thrown around in a subjective sports but you said it well

 

i feel Matthysse beat Alexander, but lost to Judah.

both close fights tho.

 

Pacquaoi is never loss!!! when he young lost no count to now, he winned Bradlee fight and Marqeuz is the cheating on PDE's
Many never beating in the circled square

 

A year or two ago there was a serious thread about that and quite a few were on board

 

Generally, I agree with the OP, though I consider Emanuel Augustus to be undefeated.

 

Andre Dirrell is undefeated, as is Lucas Mathyssel, Erislandy Lara

..And Vitali Klitschko :rofl

 

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Matthyse i disagree. I thought Judah Beat him.
And it was definetly vry close. No robbery there.

 

Yeah man! Vitali Klitschko never got his face destroyed by Lennox and never lost in a TKO6 manner.