Okay, so you were talking **** and then got owned by the fight announcement within a couple of days. Then instead of simply being happy or saying "Hey I was wrong, Dana made the fight I wanted, awesome", it turns out that in fact Haggis is somehow the *******. Ah, so when it's a nondeserving guy who YOU like, it's cool that they get a title shot without earning it. And if the obese .500 fighter doesn't get a shot at the champion based off of beating Kongo, then **** Dana, ***** ***** *****. But when it's someone with a huge fan following that you don't particularly like who gets an undeserved title shot, then **** Dana, **** Zuffa, what bull****, etc etc. That about right? :blood What context? That you were just bitching from out in the cold, just talking **** with no knowledge at all of what was going on behind the scenes or what the key players were saying in negotiations? Is that the context? :blood If he wants a title, he needs to learn to fight smarter. And what are you actually bitching about here? "Waiting too long for Struve"? What the **** does that mean? He's headlined two free-TV cards his last two fights. He's a popular, charismatic guy who the fans enjoy and who the UFC knows they can rely on for an exciting fight. He's marketable, memorable and is still pre-prime. Which heavyweights with any kind of name are younger than Struve? He's doing fine. If he never improves and never learns to fight smarter, he'll still make good money and have a good career. When you say "What's the point?" what does that even mean? :conf :hat
At the top of the last page you say Dana White should be hung... On the day the fight was announced, you were outta line bro. That's all we're saying, and putting a bullet to his name like you did on the 1st page is fanboyism at the extreme. I don't mean to disagree with you on a weekly basis, but that's just the way it is.
He should at least have the balls to say "You know what, I was wrong. I talked a bunch of **** and then got owned within a matter of hours. Turned out I had no clue at all what was going on behind the scenes, and now the guy I was talking heaps of **** on has actually given me the exact fight I was calling for, so I guess I should shut the **** up." It's a sad state of affairs when an anonymous internet poster can't even man up and admit to a handful of anonymous usernames that he was mistaken about something completely trivial. :-( :hat
So I have to edit each and everyone of my post or aknowledge the fact the fight is being made in every thread I've posted about it for you to be happy ? Nah, Lesnar created the precedent and I used it has an argument for Hunt to get a title shot. :roll: Nah the context is that DW tweeted that Hunt turned down the fight and I thought it was bull****, that he was lying. Then Hunt tweeted that he never turned down the fight and after that DW said they had a big talk. That the context. I put more trust in the word of Hunt then DW, so if Hunt says he never turned down the fight, that means DW is lying. Why is that so hard for you to understand ? It means that are they going to throw 3 or 4 prospect at him again, and then he fights a gatekeeper to get KOed again to again fight 3 to 4 propspect to gain finally give him a gatekeeper to get KOed again etc.. what's the point ? I just think they should put him against quality opposition sooner. The guys has been KOed 3 or 4 time already can't remember. If he can't keep in mind to fight smart and keep his hand up at this point I don't think he will ever learn. So really got nothing better to do tonight ?
Then he should have quoted that post and not the other 2 ! And I agree with you 100% on the fanboyism I got no problem with that has long it's not delusional and honest ! And it's common knowledge here that I just hate the guy, so it's my opinion to believe that Haggis has nothing to do tonight so he try to enterntain himself. :good
QFT. Whether you like him or not you ought to respect the man for holding that position for 10 years. I don't mind him at all, I'm just hear for the fights. No, you the man Haggis. The only way Struve gets a Title Fight in any arena is by climbing the ladder... The point is that Struve had been punched out by JDS, Roy Nelson, and Travis Browne... He's getting beat by guys and falling further and further down the ladder. Fact is he was put in with quality opposition already (JDS and Roy Nelson proved their worth) and he lost. Neither one of us has nothing to do tonight so we are going back and forth with each other. The difference between us and Haggis is that he will break down an argument quote by quote. I will sometimes too, but maybe not as good at reading between the lines. I'm not nut swinging, but if anyone thinks so then I'm fine with that. I take that back as it wasn't fanboyism.
No. But a "oh, turns out I was wrong" would do. Instead of that, you're literally calling for Dana to be hung, then a day later when he gives you exactly what you wanted, somehow everyone else is the ******* and you are still 100% right about everything. :roll: So you're just a hypocrite. :conf That's fine, but at least come out and say it. Just say "There are certain guys who I want to see get undeserved opportunities, and other guys I'll talk all kinds of **** when they land big fights that they haven't earned." :good Who knows? None of us know, we're on the outside. Maybe there was a problem that got resolved. Maybe there was a miscommunication. Who knows? I don't. But you think you know, because in any situation you'll always just think the worst of Dana, and assume that to be the truth. :-( He's had lifts in competition and he generally loses when he steps up. He's a guy they want to keep around for the next several years, and so of course they try to build him up again when he loses. They want him to put nice win streaks together to build his confidence and prepare him for steps up in competition. He's a good employee for them. Charismatic, articulate, always in exciting fights, helps bring in Dutch/European viewers, a memorable physical appearance, and seems like a good guy. Why wouldn't you try to build up a 25 year old fighter like that? It's not tonight here, it's 4 o clock on Monday afternoon and I'm waiting to go home. :-( :hat
I was wrong about what ? That DW is a liar when he said that Hunt turned down the fight when Hunt didn't turned down the fight ? Do you think you are actually making a point ? :huh And the post about DW to be hung I could do it anytime of the week, it doesnt have anything to do with the Hunt situation. A ****** could do his job IMO. How am I an hypocrite when I use an argument of a undeserving guy getting a title shot for an undeserving guy to get a title shot ? It happened, I'm not happy about it but then you should expect me to use whenever I want... ! Yes I know man, I know that DW has an history of lying and Hunt doesn't. Because he doesn't seems to be able to step it up. Let's just stop it here man don't have anymore time to waste about Struve, I enjoy his fight and hope only the best thing for his futur ! So you pick old post out of context to have some fun and argue for nothing ?
Your 100 % right mate. I'm a lifelong combat sports fan and the UFC is just giving us so much good stuff to look forward too at the minute. First thing I do when I do my daily fight news check now is go straight to UFC as there's always something happening. Look at the fights they have coming up man, Diaz-GSP, Hunt-JDS, Aldo-Pettis etc. It's fight fan heaven :happy
"A ****** could do his job?" I'm sorry mate, but that's absolutely ****ing ridiculous and you need to be called out on it. When Dana White was put in charge of the UFC they were literally ****all, they couldn't even sell out a small hall in Vegas. Listen to the Joe Rogan podcast, Dana says they had to use massive stages to hide the fact they hadn't sold enough tickets. 13 Years later, they sell out venues across the globe, they have done ppvs with over 1 million buys, they've turned martial artists into household names and worlwide superstars like GSP, Anderson Silva etc. MMA Basically hardly existed as a sport in the US when UFC was taken over, now Anderson Silva & Jonny Bones Jones have endorsement deals with Nike. They have television deals with FOX, Fuel and FX. They have television deals worldwide companies like ESPN in the UK. They've sold out shows in the United States, United Kingdom, Japan, China, Sweden, Australia, Germany, Canada. How can you ignore this? They're rise in the past 13 years has been incredible. Everything I've said above is fact. If you honestly sit there and try and say that a ****** could of achieved all that in 13 years you are completely talking out of your ****ing arse! Must be one intelligent ******.
I have to step in to make a point here. The rally for Hunt to fight JDS for the title happened when Overeem was injured when he was scheduled to fight JDS last year. Hunt would be coming in as a replacement. The event was not originally scheduled with Hunt as the opponent. Hunt was riding a 3 fight win streak, and was an intriguing style match-up. It would have only been bull**** if Hunt had been Dos Santos' scheduled opponent from the beginning. Similar to another example from last year. Dan Henderson was supposed to fight Jon Jones, but was injured. Sonnen stepped up, and accepted the fight as a replacement. No problems with that. Sonnen was not the original opponent. He was a big name trying to salvage the event. Sonnen getting the title shot as a legitimate challenger is a joke.
You can make the choice to think that DW did that all alone, or you can make the choice to believe that everything you just noted would have happened anyway because it was bound to happen cause MMA is a legit sport. You choose A I choose B...case closed. DW is a ****in ****, anybody that would have been in his place would have done the exact same thing, he is nothing special. You guys really don't have anything else to do ? Please don't forget to pat yourself in the back for all the good your you've done so far....
Don't waste your time, not like reality had anything to do with his post, he had time to kill and just wanted to get in into an argument cause that ****** doesn't have a life... He knows very well he doesn't even have a point and is just playing devils advocate like always....
Peter_1987 and BoDdi both of you are grade A ******, you can't even get when ***gis has time to waste and is obviously trolling and on top of that you get in the thread and suck his virtual **** hard...both of you are pathetic **** and are ****in tools ! :good Sorry but you both needed to be called on that nut