Why did Team Manny make such a big deal about drug testing

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ive always felt that a clean athlete should and would have nothing to hide

    i mean if your clean prove it

    also what is laughable is them saying JMM cheated with as much proof as Floyd did when accusing Manny

    did JMM sue like a ***** no he did not

    all that said i dont think it pac or floyd alone who stopped this fight, both sides have thrown up road blocks
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    They fought in May 2010. The PED accusations started in 2009.
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    by Floyd Mayweather Jr? No
     
  4. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    The weight terms were relatively a nondescript subject. It would have more importance if Pac demanded a catchweight at 145. The fact that the penalty was only in place to deter Floyd from weighing in over the division limit (a weight that Floyd has never had problems making) makes the concession of little significance and thus not a worthy comparison to a much more complicated negotiation term such as drug testing and/or purse split.



    In spite of being publicly slandered, Pac still wanted to make the fight. Just not at the expense of a full capitulation at the negotiation table which was what Floyd's side was trying to force.
     
  5. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do people talk like Pacquiao had any say in the decision making process? Whether or not Pacquiao personally wanted to make the fight is completely irrelevant.

    The guy is a Bob Arum puppet, seriously. The man can't even manage his own finances for crying out loud and people think he's directing his multi-million dollar career and contract negotiations? These must be the same people who think he's doing his job as a Congressman and not some group of rich political backers making decisions for him....

    Bob Arum runs the show and that will never change when it comes to Pacquiao. Bob Arum didn't want the fight, and that is the only opinion that matters.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Does that even matter anymore? The accusations were there.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    not from Floyd himself. People defending Pacquiao point toward the fact that Mayweather asked for him to undergo testing while throwing accusations.

    well that is false. Mayweather himself was very quiet during negotiations and never accused Pacquiao of anything. He didn't hint at Pacquiao being on anything until the Mosley fight was signed
     
  9. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree the weight penalty terms were not the same level as the testing. But they were a custom demand, one not by a sanctioned boxing authority, which is what you and they claim was a reason to not accept the testing. Do you believe if Floyd were to say no to their weight demand and request it be changed to a lower amount or they stick to what the commission said, he would rightfully be questioned as to why he won't accept and whether he plans on making weight?

    Do you think after Floyd beat Shane and said all opponents will have to do this testing, he was going to accept a cutoff for Pac?
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Don't play dumb here. You're smarter then that, and there's too much of that already on ESB. Anyway, not even sure what point you are making, or if it really means anything. LIke I said, by the time Floyd fought shane, the damage had been done. Whether jr. said something in a video you picked out means nothing.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You understand, that if Floyd came in heavy, the state commision would not cancel a bout. The pressure would be on Pac to go through with it, which I'm guessing he likely would, for a fight of this magnatude.

    This 'custom deman', as you put it, was to ensure Floyd came in at the agreed upon weight.

    Point is...not all 'custom demans' are equal, just because both sides do it. Some are more realistic, and necessary, then others.
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah what Mayweather said in that video I posted means nothing, because HE SAID NOTHING. Not a thing about PEDs. Go look for a quote or anything from Mayweather about Pacquiao or testing when negotiations were going on with Pacquiao in 2009 and early 2010. You'll find nothing

    and read my last post again for the point I was trying to make
     
  13. -GhettoWizard-

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    good point. fans werent paying attention if they think the accusations started with floyd. his dad said stuff in an obscure you tube interview. big whoop. floyd was taking tests too so what the hell was pac so scared of
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Ok...but so what? Big deal...he didn't mention PED's in THAT video. That's all your post indicates, nothing more. Funny how a guy like Floyd pays the price for **** he never did or say. Never beat up a women, did time and paid. Never said anything about Pac, settled w/ payments. This topic is done to death. Too much revisionist history from both sides to take ANYONE serious anymore.
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Proof to the contrary? Exactly. It's an opinion based on recent events.

    Just like this opinion based on your post history: You're a ******. Respond to me with substance, or not at all dip ****. I'd ***** slap you through the Internet if I could *****.

    You have zero response, so you laugh like a village idiot. Typical ***gotry I expect from a ****** like yourself.