Jones vs Calzaghe

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  1. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He does get credit but it's not anywhere as important as the Hopkins one.
     
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    This.
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe's only really good win is over Kessler... In his own backyard of course...

    Shot Jones
    Robbery against Hopkins
    Lacy was still green and had to go to Joe's backyard of course
    Robbery against Bika
    pre mature stoppage win over Mitchell
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    yes I do and for beating Hopkins. Joe had excellent handspeed and that is how he beat both guys. And if people give Bernard credit for beating Pascal a few years back and Cloud now, then they have to give Calzaghe credit for beating him in 2008.
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    But it was a robbery, Hopkins won that fight...
     
  6. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    haha! it looks like you can still watch this in the uk but here's a brit documentary on jones in 2000. right in the middle of joe's wbo "title reign." if you watch it, you'll notice the great calzaghe is not mentioned even once. when jones was on top, joe was a nothing. joe knows he would have lost the fight as well. that's why he ran straight to jones in 2008 so guys like you could think he was great.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqwGz7xkkU

    and just for the hell of it, here's joe getting beat as an amateur.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm7qcmu7UvQ
     
  7. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They just ignore the fact that even brits didnt think that Joe is any threat to Roy because he wasnt:good
     
  8. Imperial1

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    A shot to **** JONES nearly knocks him out yet Joe decimates a prime one :lol:
     
  9. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he didn't. Calzaghe went to Hopkins back yard and beat him, deal with it.

    Look at any post fight poll on here, there not even close. The fans had Calzaghe winning, as did the judges. Your opinion of what happened doesn't mean ****.
     
  10. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats a bit of a stretch. It was a flash knockdown, Joe was fine.

    That fight means nothing though I agree, Jones was and is beyond shot.
     
  11. Imperial1

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    Flash yeah right better yet that version of Jones should have never been able to deck that version of Joe ..A Jones with legs was a diffrent animal ..Joe t 'd off on Jones because he couldn't get out of the way like he use to.No surprise age gets the best of them.. They all slow down eventually some sooner than others .
     
  12. Loudon

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    In 2007, Joe said "Roy was a great fighter, but now he's not the same anymore. He's been knocked out twice, and a fight between us at this stage would be pointless."

    Early in 2008, Joe was interviewed on Setanta Sports. He said "Roy's not the same fighter anymore" He was then asked if he'd be disappointed if that was to be his final fight. Joe replied "Yes."

    Then take into account that Johnson had destroyed him over 4 years earlier, he hadn't won at elite level for 5 years, and also he was 9 weeks from his 40th birthday. If you sum everything up, then it can't possibly be classed as a great win.
     
  13. bailey

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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is so rich from Lance who calls a fight after the result has been set :lol:.
    Dave is correct.

    Lets remember that Jones, Calzaghe was viewed as a bigger better fight than Hopkins, Pavlik and many predicted Jones to win
    Bet you didnt disagree with all these so called experts before the fight
    Hindsight is one thing, but look at the facts, the Ring LHW champ beat The Ring #6 in a fight many expected him to lose. It was a big fight at the time but now Calzaghe clearly won, they say Jones was shot

    Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion
    Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision
    Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision

    “Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

    Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion
    "Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it’ll be a very close fight."

    Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion
    Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision

    “It’s going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins!”

    Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion
    Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round

    “Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”

    Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion
    “Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”

    Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion.

    "It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

    Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion

    “I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”

    Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

    “Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”

    Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

    ”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”

    Tim Smith- New York Daily News

    “Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”

    Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger
    “On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones’ constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision.”

    Bobby Cassidy- Newsday
    “I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”

    There are were more predictions for Jones against Calzaghe, that picked Jones as a winner.
    Although there were many that also picked for Calzaghe the poll on Bunces boxing was said 60% in favour of Jones as I recall.
     
  15. bailey

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