Ward says he would fight Hopkins at 175

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  1. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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  2. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why not originally fight Dawson at 175 then?
     
  3. MAG1965

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    Hopkins knows he cannot beat Ward, which I think exposes him a little as a guy who handpicks guys to stay valid and to keep his record going as the oldest man to win a title.
     
  4. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If Bhop beat Ward, I would honestly rank him top 10 all time.
     
  5. DrX

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    hopkins only face styles that favor his own
     
  6. kirk

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    Ya, thats why he fought Dawson. A guy everyone including him knew was all wrong for him.
     
  7. kirk

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    Because Dawson didnt challenge Ward at 175, he challenged him at 168.
     
  8. Ward fears GGG .. Why is he saying he would fight Hopkins when Hopkins said before he won't fight vs. Wardkke.
     
  9. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    since when ? Dawson showed stamina & heart problems and vulnerabilities long before Hopkins fought him ?

    I am a Hopkins fan but people are getting bit carried away at this stage of his career Hopkins can ONLY do well against guys with stamina issues even Dawson with his gassing after 4 rounds and no power and taking rounds off was able to beat him.

    Any guy that means serious business is going to outwork and beat Hopkins let alone Andre Ward.
     
  10. flashy k.o

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    :lol::lol:

    Boring fight IMO. Hopkins probably would lose it.
     
  11. Alo2006

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    Exactly, it's all on Youtube lol. Now a prime Hopkins vs Ward would be great!
     
  12. Skilletscuz

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    This was in reference to the PRESENT competition they have fought as of lately, competition constrained within their division in the past few years.

    Half those guys you mentioned get auto-eliminated...

    I acknowledge that Hopkins has had great fights earlier in his time, but that it was either at a lighter weightclass (outside of Light Heavyweight), or suckering up a smaller guy TO his weightclass... not competition presently already in the weightclass. Why is this a difference maker? Because he's had that great run in the past, not recently or presently. I'd like to think the past Hopkins WOULD take on Ward, but he knows his limits now, at this age. Im not debating whether Hopkins is a HOF'r or not, that's silly.
     
  13. kirk

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    Since when? Well idk, how long have you been following the situation. The general feeling was that Hopkins was ducking Dawson, and wouldnt go near him. Then he signs to fight him, and you can check the polls, the prediction leagues, and the official odds, and Hopkins was a clear underdog. Now its 'since when'. Pretty typical to be honest.

    Anyways, hes in the light heavy division, and hes fought Dawson, Pascal, and Cloud. Do you realise that these are 3 of the top 5 guys in his division? 3 Champions between 2 different belts? lol....

    And somebody can rip anyones opponents. Its very rare that a 'perfect' opponent comes along that has perfect cred as an opponent.

    But ok, so Hopkins prefers guys with lower stamina and lower workrates. So say hes not worthy of the accolades recently that you say people are going overboard with.

    So then just out of curiosity, what fighter known in the US, outside of Ward, is so much more deserving of props should Hopkins fight them, then is him fighting Dawson, Pascal, and Cloud (pretty much 3 of the top 5 guys at light heavy when he fought them)

    Im not being a smartass im truly curious as to your answer. Please name guys that are realistic, as in, someone the people paying to go see the fight have heard of before. And not named Ward. Should be easy to name a few from 160 to 175. That you think deserve much more accolades if Hopkins chose to fight them in the next two years, then does him fighting Pascal, Dawson, and Cloud, back to back to back.

    Just wanting to know from your perspective, who you think would really suprise you if Hopkins chose as an opponent.
     
  14. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    lol, thats a bit harsh there....

    Whether or not you think he's cherry-picked, he has fought the best in the division..... you CANNOT ask more than that.

    Not fighting someone who is NOT in your weight division is NOT a duck...

    Now if Ward goes up to Light Heavyweight and he refuses to fight Ward, that's something else altogether
     
  15. JMP

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    I'd watch the fight without question - even if it were on PPV, but I don't really want to see a 48-year old Hopkins lose very convincingly to a lesser/sloppier version of his younger self. Ward would completely out-hustle Hopkins and out-do him to the point where Bernard would be struggling to find any openings offensively, and would be dead-tired from dealing with Ward's handspeed, footspeed, and grueling inside presence.

    Also, not to say Ward isn't a fantastic fighter. He's arguably the best in the world today and is carving out a hall-of-fame legacy, but he's not as good as the 1997-2002 Hopkins. Water Bernard's skill-level down a tad (defense, post-punch defensive manuvers/positioning, footwork, timing, counter-punching, offensive crispness/fluidity, movement, footwork, angle usage, non-mauling inside fighting), then add a bit of speed/athleticism and you get Andre Ward.