Billy Conn versus Joe Calzaghe

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  1. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    calzaghe would wait until conn was in his 40s to fight him and win a decision.
     
  2. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No amateur career, learning on the job ,overmatched as a youngster.
    Someone needs to tell me how he beat 8 world champions, none of whom were 40 years old. Conn was a great lightheavyweight champion, Calzaghe was not.
     
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    More speed? I don't think so.
     
  5. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol.. Billy was just flat out better
     
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    I think Calzaghe is getting overrated based on everyone thinking he's underrated.
     
  7. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Hard to say, because we don´t have a good amount of footage of Conn at his best.....
    Contrary to the common opinion I think Calzaghe is a force H2H.....well, at least against some opponents, I think he wouldn´t be an easy night for anyone, Conn and other greats included.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Of hands ? I think he had....foot speed belongs to Conn, definitely IMO.
     
  9. mcvey

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    Calzaghe beat 2 lhvy's ,one was near 40, he had won 3 of his last 6, the other was 43, he had won 2 of his last 4.Both floored him.
     
  10. RockyJim

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    Prime Conn takes a UD...
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I stick with my estimation from 5 years ago. Calzaghe is too fast, hits harder and follows a game plan much better. He is just much more seamless. Conn could be erratic and gambled with the openings he left. Still, it's closer to a toss up than a sure thing either way.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    Agreed, he doesn't get kudos on the Classic because like Mayweather he cherry picked, didn't take that many risks and had a fear of losing. But like Mayweather he was very dominant, bar a couple of close fights. Dominance and performances like he'd give show he was 1 of the elites in history from 168-175 in my view. I think most boxers recognise that he was very very good. Stamina wise maybe 1 of the best ever.

    BTW Calzaghe also had pretty fast feet when younger and even past prime.
     
  13. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Yes, I know that....he beat Jones clearly but IMO Hopkins won the fight to be fair, but I think that wasn´t the best version of Calzaghe either...
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Hopkins did not win that fight. Even those at ringside thought Calzaghe won it going away.
     
  15. rantcatrat

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    I have to agree 100%.

    As for Calzaghe-Conn, can you explain why you think Conn's performance, even in loss against Louis, was overrated? It seems like a career-defining performance to me in that he went up in weight to face one of the top 5 all-time heavyweights, and frankly, outboxed him for most of the fight. This was prime Louis too.