Just so you know, the guy you're talking to believes weights always injure an athlete and destroy their joints, and that weight training is far inferior than bodyweight exercises in regards to improving boxing power. I'm a strength coach myself, did you ever have your guys learn olympic weightlifting to improve explosiveness or did you feel that learning the technique properly was too time consuming (so just stuck to plyos and ballistic weight training exercises)?
Everyone is entitled to there opinion. I gave up on arguing with people on this board a long time ago. Olympic lifts are great for developing explosive strength. I would never argue that. I tried to keep Kermits training very sports specific, and used movements that simulated the things Kermit did as a fighter. I used a very heavy weight training program followed by a training period focussed specifically on plyos/ballistic movements. Kermits weight training was always in the 3-5 rep range for a period of 6 weeks. From there I would give him a two week break. Then it was a training regimen focussed on plyos to retrain his muscles to react explosively so that he could make proper use of the increased strength. As I am sure you know... there is ceiling to how much strength n power you can build using bodyweight exercises.
You have either never set foot in a gym or you are taking the ****. There is no way on earth a guy who is around 160 is benching 425lbs. It's not like boxing where muscle size doesn't relate to performance...it's weightlifting, maidana is tiny
I agree that there is a ceiling in regards to bodyweight excercises, but most people will only reach that ceiling in regards to bodyweight squats. Most people can't do an unsupported one handed pull up, a one handed push up with their feet together, and handstand push ups between chairs for instance. Furthermore, you can add pylometric excercises to supplement, strength training. Regarding squats, I agree that you can't mimic heavy squats, but you can still develop very powerful legs, and feel more agile with pistol squats and pylometrics. I feel like it's more healthier in the long run. I'd say my ability to jump is almost as good as it was when I was lifting heavy squats. If you're already a puncher, why lose agililty, right?
There is no record of the The 670lb bench, I would bet the guy could not raw bench even 475lbs. atsch
Maidana as super strength hes argentian they are known for there brute strength. Its true ffs I've literally seen video evidence go through ellie sechbachs videos or pm him on twitter or something..
Listen its true, why would I make something like that up, I'm not saying I bench 200kg, **** no. Maidana is a professional athlete, its not that hard to believe I know ****ing semi pro golfers who can squat a whole bunch. Seriously look through elies old videos, or it maybe on maidanas facebook or something, I saw it with my own eyes mate.
You saw what with yur own eyes? Did you see a video of him benching it? If you did put it up here. Your talking about ellie saying thats what marcos does means nothing. I believe maybe 300. 420 **** no
Proper weight training does not compromise agility. Kermits weight training was sports specific. All geared towards making him as powerful as possible while remaining in the same weight class. I nearly tripled his physical strength while never compromising his ability to make 147. I did mix in pull-ups and dips with Kermit, but always with added weight. Kermit could do 3 pull-ups with an extra 135lbs hanging from his body, and 10 dips with 135lbs extra.
435 is the world record for a 148lb man in the raw bench. We are talking here about an athlete whos trains for years to do this lift. I seriously doubt a boxer that lifts for boxing could ever come close to that.
Men Bench Press X-Bwt Male Lifter/ Nationality/ YOB/ Date/ Actual Weight/ Exact Bodyweight/ Location/ Federation 114 (52) 391.3 (177.5) *3.51X Andrzej Stanaszek (Poland/71) 11/18/94 (177.5 kg. @ 50.6 kg.) (Johannesburg, South Africa) (IPF) 123 (56) 391.3 (177.5) *3.23X Mike Booker (US/81) 6/21/03 (177.5 kg. @ 121.0 lb.) (Vista, California) (AAU) 132 (60) 410.0 (186.0) *3.13X Rick Taz Couch (US) 11/20/93 (410.0 lb. @ 131.0 lb.) (Thousand Oaks, California) (APA/WPA/UBPF) 148 (67.5) 435.0 (197.3) *3.02X Alex Poku (US/68) 1/13/90 (435.0 lb. @ 144.25 lb.) (White River Junction, Vermont) (APA/WPA) 165 (75) 485.0 (220.0) *2.94X Rick Weil (US/58) 7/23/83 (220.0 kg. @ 74.9 kg.) (Austin, Texas) (USPF) 181 (82.5) 556.7 (252.5) *3.06X Rick Weil (US/58) 6/29/86 (252.5 kg. @ 82.4 kg. Heaviest unequipped triple bodyweight bench press of all time.) (Dayton, Ohio) (APF/WPC) 198 (90) 565.0 (256.3) *2.96X Larry Danaher (US) 10/4/86 (565.0 lb. @ 191 lb.) (Indianapolis, Indiana) (USPF/APF) 220 (100) 582.0 (264.0) *2.68X Mike MacDonald (US/48) 5/19/79 (580.0 lb. @ 217.0 lb., which later weighed out at 582.0 lb.) (Minneapolis, Minnesota) (USPF) 242 (110) 615.0 (279.0) *2.56X Jeremy Hoornstra (US/81) 9/29/06 (615.0 lb. @ 240.0 lb.) (Las Vegas, Nevada) (WPO) 275 (125) 661.4 (300.0) *2.40X Laszlo Meszaros (Hungary/68) 10/4/09 (300.0 kg. @ 125.0 kg.) (Rostov-on-Don, Russia) (WPC) 308 (140) 701.1 (318.0) *2.28X Scot Mendelson (US/69) 10/12/02 (318.0 kg. @ 308.0 lb.) (San Francisco, California) (APF) SHW 715.0 (324.3) *2.28X Scot Mendelson (US/69) 5/22/05 (715.0 lb. @ 314.0 lb. Highest bench press of all time without a bench press shirt.) (Worcester, Massachusetts) (Atlantis) (Compiled From Michael Soong's Ranking & Records)