A question for those that rank Barrera over Morales.....

I respect you as a poster Bill but that is one of the most self defeating posts I've seen from you.

The 116-112 is not unreasonable for the third fight.I remember after discussing it with you I had another swatch and found my self actually trying to score for Morales after our discussion as I thought I may have just been too biased in my scoring.
Best I could do for Morales was 113-115.Wish I could remember where I put my old notepad for this sort of thing now.

You're as biased as I am mate,and that's fine as long as you acknowledge it.:good

 

I probably would..but it would have been nice to see a 4th fight.

 

We disagree on the 4th and the 12th, two notably close rounds. I can't give them to Erik; He does nothing to dictate the fight, he misses a lot, and he gets slammed with big shots. But your card, 114-114, is perfectly reasonably if you give Morales the benefit of the doubt in these 2 rounds, and its not a biased thing to do, because you give Barrera the 9th. We both agree Morales gave it away over the first half, almost sleepwalking his way through as Barrera simply lights him up with left hands. I think he needs more than one good round in the first 6 to have a decent argument for the fight, or for even a draw.

But my 116-112 card is also perfectly reasonable. A majority decision is a good verdict.

I have the first fight 115-112 Barrera, the second fight(as of this evening, my most recent viewing of it) 115-113 Morales, and the third 116-112.

Great trilogy, but I think Barrera got the better of it relatively clearly, because he is Morales' stylistic nemesis; A great boxer-puncher with tremendous power in the left hand. Morales' less than world class defense is shown up over all 3 as Barrera lands so many huge, showy punches, knocking his head all around and busting his face up. Barrera's self contained style of blocking and slipping serves him, too, as Morales can't establish his jab in any fight but the first half of the second, and his jab is really a key part of his offense, he noticeably struggles without it.

 

Scoring the fight with the sound off.

Oh, how I've dreamt of seeing Canzoneri-Chocolate with sound.

 

I watched all three fights without sound and without bias and i had Marco Antonio Barrera winning by knockout three times, gotta tell ya watchin it without sound really made a difference.

 

See, I think the exact opposite: Barrera outfought him, by and large, and I thought he won quite a few more rounds when you total the trilogy up.

Suppose that is what makes them great fights, plenty in there to disagree on.

 

Barrera did the higher quality work, especially in the third fight. He looked the better operator.

Anyone who can't see that is a ****ing ******.

 

Round 5 in the first fight, round 10 in the second, round 11 and 12 in the third, all amazing, gritty rounds. So many punches thrown and taken, lots of courage and hunger on display.

I'm glad Marquez ultimately got to have exchanges like that with a rival in Pacquiao. It flat out boosts your legacy; Nothing shows true ability like meeting your match in a skilled, determined adversary.

 

And the first and third fights showed that as soon as that range lapsed, Barrera was superior, as in those instances, he bludgeoned the **** out of Morales and beat him up.

It's a great trilogy for reasons like that. Morales had his advantages, Barrera had his, and we got to watch them trade them for 36 rounds, and even spin it on its head. There were rounds Barrera outboxed Morales behind the jab, and rounds where Morales outfought Barrera in the trenches at mid-range.