pacquiao Fans Your Feelings On Marquez Not Granting Rematch?

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  1. ROACH

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    You're a young kid. You don't know **** about anything.

    When you get older, your body is NOT the same.

    You can't train with the same type of intensity that you could when you're younger because you recover at a slower rate.

    It was right in your face. I mean, how more blatant can you be than hiring a convicted steriod dealer that knows how to beat drug test and administer drug coctails to perfection?

    Sure, he could gain muscle, but he would compromise other facets of his training. You can't have both at the age of 38, at a low weight class.

    But he did. He had the full package. And why? Because he was able to increase his ability to recover through the use of PEDs.

    It's obvious. Why do you deny this? Are you a dumbass?

    To me, this man basically ****ed over another man's career through his own jealousy which caused him to cheat.

    He's a low human being. But the end of the day, he has to live with what he did.
     
  2. turbotime

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    So why didn't he knock out fedchenko like he did Pacquiao?
     
  3. ROACH

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    Marquez looked like a top fighter, not just in boxing, but in history in that fight.

    Yet, people question his ability to take on guys today?

    Why do you think that is?

    Because everybody on here subconsciously or even consciously thinks he was on something.

    If he wasn't, why would anybody question whether or not he could hang with Bradley or Rios or even Broner?

    Do you think he would just rapidly fall off and become a shell of what he was after one fight?

    Get outta here.

    You question it because you know he cheated. You don't go from being King Kong to a piece of **** fighter in one fight.

    You don't go from beating one of the best fighters in the sport to not being able to hang with Rios or Bradley.

    But you question it.

    Of course he owes Pacquaio a rematch. The man blatantly cheated and got away with it. He ruined the Mayweather Pacquaio fight due to his own blind hatred and jealousy.

    That's what you call a piece of ****.
     
  4. Smokin' Joe

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    You're the thickest **** on this forum.


    He had a 4 month camp so he could build that muscle without damaging himself you clown. The average training camp is 8 to 10 weeks. If he was on PEDs he wouldn't have needed 4 months to get in the shape he did.

    Quit your butthurt whining.
     
  5. MVC

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    It's always funny reading these threads with the butthurt *******s.

    Hilarious.
     
  6. ROACH

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    Two reasons, Fedchenko was very reluctant to engage, and it looked like Marquez looked like a shell of himself.

    He looked like an older man that lifted weights and trained, but was clearly and older man.

    In his fight with Pacquaio, he looked far better because his ability to recover was enhanced, so he could train harder and more intense.

    A 38 year old man does not have a 4 month long training camp.

    When you get older, you'll find out that you are NOT the same as you were when you were 20. And can you lift all the damn weights you want, but if you do that, you compromise something else.

    And even then, if you train with too much intensity, you risk injury; your body just can't heal like it used to.

    I know people hate Pacquaio, so they give Marquez a pass, but if they believed that Marquez was clean, then they wouldn't question Marquez' ability to fight on.
     
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  8. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good. I'm sick of seeing Marquez school Pacroid over and over again. Fight somebody new. Both of you.
     
  9. turbotime

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    Well Marquez was getting beat up until Pac got dumb and ran into a punch. You can only run into so many right hands before you get KTFO you know
     
  10. ROACH

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    I know you suck his dick, and you're borderline gay with man love for the dude, so you see no wrong, but apparently you're not a big fan because you didn't watch his last fight.

    He was very muscular against Fedchencko too, but according to you, he just started lifting weights.

    He has been lifting since the third Pacquaio fight.

    The difference is, for those 4 months he healed his injuries and enhanced his recovery time with the use of PEDs.

    The only reason you can't see that is because you're probably less than 20, so you don't have any ****in idea how the human body works.

    There is reason there is only 1 Bernard Hopkins.
     
  11. ROACH

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    I agree with you. Pacquaio did **** up. And at the end of the day, that's the story, but what bothers me is people turn a blind eye to his obvious PED use.

    I mean, you can't get more blatant than that, but people turn a blind eye.

    And now, he won't give him a rematch? Come on man.

    It just shows a lack of character from Marquez. I can't get down with that.
     
  12. Collie

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    I like both fighters and I'd like to see JMM retire while at the top, especially since he isn't fighting Pacquaio again. He isn't going to better KO'ing Pacquaio (except maybe doing it twice!) and I hope it wont be hard for him to motivate himself for a hungry contender like Bradley or Rios. JMM is nearly 40 remember and has been in wars, I'd just hope he wouldn't retire after losing to a fighter like Bradley or Rios. He does deserve his paycheque though and is well capable of beating Bradley or Rios but he can't go on forever.

    As for Pacquaio, I would have favoured a 5th JMM fight, the build up would have been exciting with Pacquaio with a point to prove. Fight 4 was FOTY and if a 5th fight was half as good it'd be better than a lot of other fights from the fans perspective. I don't want to see Pacquaio - Bradley again.

    I don't think JMM needed to give Pacquaio a rematch, it would have been nice and I think the most exciting fight out there but fight four was decisive.
     
  13. thawk888

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    Deal with it

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  14. ROACH

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    I don't see guys at Marquez age with the ability to take that type of punishment either.

    The top guys that are that age are guys that don't get hit often.

    Vitali, Wlad, Hopkins. You don't see them taking shots like that.

    The problem is when you're older, the shots hurt your brain more. The brain isn't as stable as it is when you're younger.

    That concussion that Marquez sustained was serious, but the fact that his body was like a 20 year old allowed him to stand up to it, despite the fact the steriods didn't do **** to protect his brain.
     
  15. Smokin' Joe

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    You don't believe an elite athlete can build some shoulder muscle over the space of 4 months without getting injured?

    I never said he's just started lifting. But he's only been with Heredia since Pacquiao III, when his training changed dramatically. They didn't have long together before Pacquiao III, but since then there's been a gradual increase in his definition. Although the difference is far from extreme.

    You keep mentioning you can't do this and that at age 38. You ever seen the shape he got in at 36/37, before Heredia? The guy's always been in incredible shape for his age. Some guys are genetically different. Hopkins, Sergio, JMM, Froch etc. There's countless names. If you take care of yourself and have the required dedication, you can last a long time.

    But you won't allow any of that to permeate your mind because, as we all know, you're a massive ******* and JMM hater because he felled your hero. I don't have a problem with that as long as you can admit it.