Why is Pacman still in most people's top 10 P4P lists while

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  1. Polish_Glass

    Polish_Glass it breaks Full Member

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    David Haye is nowhere close? :patsch

    Pac has lost 3 fights in a row, 2 of which were to a 40-year old grandpa JMM. Furthermore, most of his legacy is built on fighting opponents coming of loses and/or at a catchweight...

    On the other side we have the Hayemaker (a natural cruiserweight) who is constantly fighting heavyweights and superheavyweights who weigh 40+ pounds more than the cruiserweight limit. :-( And he still beats them!

    Can someone shed some light on this? Looking at their most recent 4-5 fights, how can anyone make a case for Pacman being a better P4P fighter than the Hayemaker??
     
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  2. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because one defeat was a robbery. The other one was to a fellow p4per, and the fight was close till he got caught . Haye lost almost every round to Wlad.
     
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  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would suggest Tomasz Adamek belongs on the list given his decisive wins over top flight competition in the cruiser and heavyweight divisions recently.
     
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  4. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Pretty much this.
     
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  5. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Haye? Seriously?

    Of all the guys you could possibly argue to put in place of Pacquiao, you go with Haye? David Haye?

    FFS.
     
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  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    arguing Haye vs Pac for P4P is arguing whether or not I should stick a pin or a needle in my ****.
     
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  7. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    I might sound biased here, but Viloria need a shout due to his performance the past year.
     
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  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    He's easily in the tp 10. should be.
     
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  9. Polish_Glass

    Polish_Glass it breaks Full Member

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    Are you guys serious?

    And who is Wlad? Please enlighten me. In addition, Wlad outweighs cruiserweight limit by 45 pounds whilst JMM is smaller than Pac.

    Can't tell if serious or sarcastic... I sure hope it's the latter
     
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  10. yOyOyO_26

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    Haye fought one good heavyweight and lost
     
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  11. Polish_Glass

    Polish_Glass it breaks Full Member

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    Pac fought old, past his prime, blown up JMM and lost. David Haye fought a prime athlete in his backyard and still managed to win rounds.

    The major difference, however, is that JMM didn't have to resort to hugging or putting all his weight on Pacman thorughout the bout in order to win.

    The bias is unbelievable.
     
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  12. Imperial1

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    :lol::lol::lol:



    Haye also blames his loss on his pinky Toe that alone should move him up to what top p4p :lol:
     
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  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because the MASSES ARE ASSES .
     
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  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    P4P I'd rank a whole bunch of guys over Haye.

    As for Pacquiao, I see nothing wrong with 7-20. I have him at 7 but that's as high as I could possibly see it. It is out of respect/praise for all that he did before his recent bad run. Same thing with an ATG like Mayweather, one defeat, depending on the circumstances, might be enough to drop him out of the elite P4P tier but won't be enough to drop him out of the top tier.

    Regarding a P4P list, I just ask for consistency in what one values.
     
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  15. Polish_Glass

    Polish_Glass it breaks Full Member

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    Nice, Hayeters are out in full force today.
     
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