Why all the hate for Angel Heredia? He's been clean since his Olympic days

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  1. MVC

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    The man is one of the most successful str/conditioning coaches around

    Sure his record is a bit tainted but that was all in the past....

    Many fighters have done PEDS before, doesn't mean they do it now.

    Same goes for Angel. He's learned his ways and he's completely legit now (Hasn't been caught and no evidence of convicting him)

    So innocent until proven guilty. He hasn't even shown signs of being guilty. So why the hate?

    Angel Heredia is one of the best s/c coaches around, let's stop bashing him.
     
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    have you ever wondered/wished about him and floyd working together and how he would make floyd a much more formiddable fighter?
     
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    Nah because Leonard Ellerbe is also one of the best str/conditioning coaches in the world.

    Why would he need Heredia? 2 s/c coaches working alongside one another will only cause problems.
     
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    Theres consequences to actions. One of those consequences being that people busted for PED farming will have a cloud over them for a long time to come.
     
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    Vitali was caught for PEDS in 96, but he's not seen as a cheater.

    Heredia is the same. They both made mistakes, doesn't mean anything. They are changed men.
     
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    :rofl You tell em Ellerbe
     
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    That's your opinion, and your standards... which is cool, to each their own.

    Others will feel it and view it differently.

    You asked why the hate, I was just telling you.


    You act like this behavior is unnatural. Holding someone to their past happens all the time, in every single aspect to life.

    Actions have reactions.
     
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    Well I'm simply questioning why only Heredia when he's not the only man with a tainted past.

    He's not the only one who made mistakes, yet it seems like he's always accused of distributing PEDS to his fighters when there is absolutely no evidence of convicting him. It seems like all of his recent accomplishments are being played down to no end even when all of his fighters's tests have come back negative (recent years)

    I just think it should be more fair.

    Maybe hold him in the same standards as OTHERS whom have committed the same acts he has.

    Maybe it's an issue beyond the sport of boxing. I don't know.
     
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    I hear you :good
     
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    For the umphteenth time, I'm not Leonard.
     
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    Wow, MVC is growing up. You almost made me cry. Good stuff homie :clap:
     
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    Shut it. :fire
     
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    "You heard him!"
     
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    :rofl
     
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    mvc hit ny soon ill buy you a ticket to a fight we can chill
     
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