Jean Pascal has hired Angel Heredia for the Bute fight

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Such a shame when boxing is reduced to this but true.
     
    iceferg, Mar 17, 2013
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  2. Carrera

    Carrera Active Member Full Member

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    Betting odds are going to be crazy on this bout! Bute will probably be a underdog by 85%... I hope Bute pulls this one off!
     
    Carrera, Mar 17, 2013
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  3. kirk

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    Thats a shame.

    As long as convicted PED farmers continue to have success though, like Angel and Conte, fighters will continue to go to them.
     
    kirk, Mar 17, 2013
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  4. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    so Bute has to yell at Pascal : take da tess for the fenss ......
     
    flashy k.o, Mar 17, 2013
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  5. yOyOyO_26

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    i wanna see the odds for Pascal ko, they best be good
     
    yOyOyO_26, Mar 17, 2013
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  6. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that stuff is good
     
    Redondo5, Mar 18, 2013
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  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is great. The more athletes Heredia is willing to train, the less I believe there is to be suspicious about him.

    If you're giving the athletes you train PED's, one of them is bound to chirp when there's a beef with Heredia.

    I would think that if Heredia was supplying the fighters he trains with PED's, he would be very reserved as to who to work with.
    Pascal is a fighter who has asked for PED testing against Hopkins and Hopkins refused.

    I just cant imagine in this day in age of surveilance and big brother watching over you that Heredia would be approached by another fighter to be trained, and Heredia volunteering the methods of PED's.
    If this were the case, Heredia would have been set up by someone to get caught a long time ago.

    With Heredia now out openly training fighters, I think the probablity that he's using PED methods is less so than if he would to be behind the scenes as he was before with Conte.
     
    divac, Mar 18, 2013
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  8. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    :lol:
    Was about to say the same thing.
    :good
     
    BeastsideBoxing, Mar 18, 2013
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  9. DrMo

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    I bet the fighters he's working with dont have a clue what they are being given. They just drink the shakes & take whatever supplements Heredia is giving them.
     
    DrMo, Mar 18, 2013
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  10. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    That would make my day. Hopkins would be rolling on the floor laughing to.
    :lol:
     
    BeastsideBoxing, Mar 18, 2013
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  11. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    Heredia focuses mostly on the actual physical work. There's plenty of youtube videos of him actually training with JMM, so you can check out how intense it is. Conte on the other hand, has no S&C knowledge or qualifications and just provides nutritional supplements for his fighters from behind the scenes.

    Make of that what you will.
     
    Smokin' Joe, Mar 18, 2013
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  12. DrMo

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    Yeah Ive seen videos of him & Juan in the gym.

    I just dislike the perception that all fighters actually understand what chemicals & compounds go into their supplements. Most of them dont have a clue.
     
    DrMo, Mar 18, 2013
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  13. yingyang

    yingyang Boxing Addict Full Member

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    of course... Heredia can cocktail Undetectable PED's, why not hire him. It works for JMM.
     
    yingyang, Mar 18, 2013
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  14. Smokin' Joe

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    True.
     
    Smokin' Joe, Mar 18, 2013
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  15. mishima

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    more fighters are working with Memo to be on a level playing field
     
    mishima, Mar 18, 2013
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