Ward Would Fight Mayweather at 160 but Wouldn't Fight Dawson At 175

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    A fair point indeed. But when you have idiots like Rudyard calling for Froch KO'ing Bute as if that's an award to Ward.....

    Um no, that actually pulls Froch close to Ward in terms of 168, and might even surpass him "resume wise" at 168 when it's all done. Froch's resume is ****ing deep

    Pascal
    Taylor
    Bute
    Dirrell
    Abraham
    Johnson
    Magee

    Possibly Kessler in the return.....crazy accomplished.

    vs

    Kessler
    Abraham
    Froch
    Bika
    Miranda
    Dawson

    Both have done great work. But Froch knocking out Bute doesn't help Ward much when it was close and with Froch about to smack Kess again
     
  2. PityTheFool

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    It would've been a good fight IMO mate.
    But the point is,Ward turned it down because at the time,he felt he deserved a "soft" homecoming fight,and I think it would've been only fair after the S6.
    Bute hadn't been exposed yet,and had every right to demand parity at the time,which defeated the purpose of Ward's plan(for an earner with a huge majority share of the purse)

    I know Ward's plans went tits up,but to suggest he actually "ducked" Bute because he feared him is ridiculous,even without hindsight.
     
  3. Carrera

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    I agree, Ward never really ducked Bute in terms of being fearful. But what did Ward do then? He didn't unify, he didn't give the fans what he said he would do, and he missed out on bread.

    All serious factors which he should of just stepped up to the plate and banged. I would've respected him more then I do now. Legacy and Money... the two most important things in boxing!
     
  4. knockout artist

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    Rudyard's a joker :lol:

    On a serious note though good point, I would say their records are comparable at the moment, if Froch beats Kessler in the rematch, I'd rate him as the number 1 SMW due to Ward's inactivity.




    I agree mate, to suggest a pro fighter is scared of anyone is ridiculous. It's about management though, and I think Ward's team may have seen Bute as too high risk at that time to make the fight, that's why they dismissed him, that was the fight to make at the time. But as said, Ward did beat the other top fighters in the division, so I can cut him some slack, I don't hold it much against him

    One thing I will say though, Ward gets no credit whatsoever for Froch destroying Bute as I've seen written on here before, the credit there goes 100% to Carl Froch and his team
     
  5. Carrera

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    Froch held it down that night! I've never seen a drive like that before!
     
  6. turbotime

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    I've always been a fan of Froch (check the threads)

    Sure, I picked Bute to beat him, but FFS it wasn't the first time I was wrong :patsch
     
  7. PityTheFool

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    I can see your point but I suspect your feelings wouldn't be as strong were it not Bute who we're discussing here.

    He was entitled to a softer fight.Bute's had plenty of those.
     
  8. turbotime

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    Abraham, Miranda, Green were pretty soft touches.
     
  9. PityTheFool

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    Yeah but they had to be in it to win it.

    Ward was entitled to a money making "home" fight after beating Froch,just like Bute was entitled to a fight like Grachev after losing to Froch.
     
  10. turbotime

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    Miranda and Green were Super 6 fighters?
     
  11. turbotime

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    ??
     
  12. Bogotazo

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    He's snapped. He's finally snapped.


    Can't say I blame him.
     
  13. PityTheFool

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    Well unless I've had a serious knock on the head,Green took part.
    Did he not?
     
  14. PityTheFool

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    He's a very good poster when he wants to be.
    I'm actually wondering if King/Queen Khan has Turbo tied up in a cellar and is using his account to beat the permaban.
     
  15. turbotime

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    So Bute has had soft touches but Ward hasn't? ****ing Green, Miranda, Bika.