Pacquiao or Sanchez...Which set of wins is more impressive?

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  1. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bring back the dead!!! because that's the only time you can have Bragging rights over Pac!!! Wait till Pac retires. He'll be hailed as the Greatest little man in Boxing History. Some writers & HBO guys already declaring that This era of Featherweight are the Best in History. And name of Pac came up on top.
     
  2. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only people voting for Pac are his **** jockeys, obviously not real boxing fans.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    What is it with you are bragging rights?

    You took this thread as an insult to Pac because you want it to be.

    In actuality, I was simply asking a reasonable question (because I am in the process of redoing my top 100 list and want people's input about their biggest wins so I have a better idea as to who ranks higher)
     
  4. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Chava ever fought at Different weight Class???? Pac achieved what's not expected of him. He's not supposed to succeed at the Higher weight Class because he''s a former Flyweight. He already achieve no other former Flyweight Champ in History. He's already Hailed as the Best Asian fighter ever. What else you guys need to see to give Pac his due???

    OK Lets wait again till Pac dominates 135 & Beat Hatton. Maybe then you guys give Pac his due.
     
  5. truewarrior

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    SS was 23 when he died he didnt have a chance to move up, anyways after the Nelson fight he was supposed to move up to 130LBS. SS had boxing skills, chin, speed, and endurance. He beat the best there was when he died and they became the best afterwards. What I am trying to say is get off Pacs nuts there are better fighters out there dont get too excited I know the Phillipines have never had a good boxer but dam chill pinoys
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    You're getting quite defensive...

    I never said I don't rate Pacquiao or don't consider him one of the ATGs, which would justify you saying I don't give the guy his due. In fact, I'll go on record right now saying Manny Pacquiao is an All Time Great and the Greatest Asian Fighter of All Time.

    My question was based on those two lists of wins. Pacquiao's wins over Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Sasakul, Larios, and Ledwaba against Sanchez's wins over Gomez, Nelson, Lopez, Laporte, Cowdell, and Castillo. From my perspective, and certainly many other respectable posters, it's not out of the question to vote for Sanchez.

    And also, Sanchez was going to move up and fight Alexis Arguello. We all know what happened to prevent this from occuring.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    sanchez has a great win against an undefeated but comin-up in weight gomez. pac has a great win coming-up in weight against barrera. pac has a very good stoppage against an old but still good morales while sanchez had a win against a green nelson but will soon look very good in his resume. pac have a close win and a draw against a higly-skilled marquez while sanchez have two stoppages over a good puncher in danny lopez. other wins i would give the edge to pac since ledwaba and sasakul were regarded champs when pac fought them.
     
  8. boxbox

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    excuse me:huh how about Elorde and Villa?
     
  9. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    this goes easily to sanchez witohout bias. period
     
  10. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac
     
  11. PacDbest

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    Ok.. Youtube is there. watch them all fights you mentioned Then tell which one you enjoy the most??? I live in that era of the 1980s, Chava & Gomez wt class is only the 3rd in Popularity behind the Heavys & welters of that era. In this era.. Pac selling more tickets & PPVs than Heavys & any other weightclass except for fight involving DLH & PBF.
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Is this the best you could come up with?

    Again, your response has no significance to the question I asked. I realize Pacquiao is a popular fighter who puts asses in seats and generates big PPV numbers. I LOVE to watch him fight. But popularity or PPV numbers doesn't make a fighter's win any better than anothers.

    To analyze/compare the quality of wins, you have to look at the following things:
    1. Quality of the opponent
    2. How the winner looked
    3. Stylistic edge/disadvantage
    4. Status of the opponent

    ...and to a lesser extent with more modern wins, the bookie situation.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd pick a green Azumah Nelson to KO any of Pac's best opponents.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is that right?
    .....then you must have heard wrong, because that HBO broadcast also said that its possible that history may not recognize because of his official loss to Pacquiao that JMM was the best featherweight of the era.
    It was Max Kellerman of HBO who said it, stating that in his opinion JMM has two victories over Manny Pacquiao and that history is unlikely to recognize it as such because in the official books it is Pacquiao who has a W on his resume over JMM......Bob Papa closed the commentary by echoing the same sentiment.
     
  15. JMotrain

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    Sanchez