Early versions of advanced techniques.

Lloyd Marshall ma man, RJJ hasn't shown anything fighters like Marshall didn't do long before him, and Marshall was by no means unque. Great yes he was but not unique, as the saying goes "there's nothing new under the sun..."

my biggest regret was that I was in Sacramento California for 3 days in 1982 and had I realised then just how important Marshall would become to me, my family and British Boxing, I'd have most certainly met with him!

 

Joe Walcott had great footwork.His left hook which he knocked out Charles is something that you don't see today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVMg1VNiDZU

 

What a shot!

 

While I agree that Marshall was superb there has never been a fighter like Roy Jones. His ability transcends era's.

 

What you see a lot today is young fighters trying to emulate Floyd. A wide range of fighters, from Kevin Mitchell against Katsidis, Andre Dirrell, Broner obviously, and a load of horrible domestic level talents, are trying the 'shoulder roll', and a Floyd one at that, with the rigid 'Vogue' arm positioning. Most of them don't have the reflexive ability to pull it off (even Broner IMO, who has Toney's feet and little of his nous)

I guess Tunney had a similar effect in his era, and Ali on a load of guys (ranging from Thai's like Sot Chitalada and Thanomchit Sukhothai to, obviously, Tyrell Biggs) but for me, I cringe when I see the obvious Floyd imitators.

Bit of a tangent here, apologies, maybe that's worth a thread in it's own (similar stylists by era and who probably influenced 'em, if I wasn't :rasta right now I'd probably be able to push myself to start it myself but meh to that)

You seen Benton Vs Hurricane Carter, Magna? One of my favourite ten rounders that.

As for the part I've -------- I will say the kinda' performance De La Hoya put on in the last three rounds of the fight with Tito is now held up as the pinnacle of pure boxing when you see a negative, athletic, sporadic output 'masterclass' today.

 

I thought Berto was masterful. You simply don't understand it. He was deflecting the shots with a fluid face block. It's all part of the stance.

 

Another.

 

I don't know what that word means...

 

I don't know how early in boxing you want the fights to be but here are some older ones I like. filled with skills, some things you don't see a lot of today.
[yt]Wfk9IrRh5Kg[/yt] (1957) mute this video

[yt]Wo9zzGccQ0o[/yt] (1964)

and of course Joe Louis has more skill and ability than most heavyweights ever. James Toney watched the old school greats.

He said to Seckbach in more than one of his videos as advice to the young fighters to look at the old fighters from the past because that's the right way to fight, not like they do it today.

 

:huh

 

Why mute it? Which one are you muting? DeMarco-Akins? Yuck that's just fuzz ain't it?

DeMarco isn't a fighter to win the 'modern is best' crowd around though

 

Phew. Why does everyone else think I'm just cynically 'hating' then?