Both great posts !! Whitaker always wanted the best and he wanted the bragging rights that came with beating the best !!
Haha very funny !! When has he displayed it ??? When ??? He won`t even sign a contract to fight the best in their weights or at their prime, and he has heart ?? Hearns,and SRL would have eaten his heart and destroyed him. ****, he would have feinted if he ever looked up into Hearns eyes during a staredown... Determined yes, to keep his phony O alive against cherry picked opponents !
You obviously do not know ****. Floyd fought through injuries, torn shoulder, broken hands, and when he did get hurt he fights back. And as well when he is against a tough battle, he always fight back.
Floyd was crowned the division champ in his 18th fight and fought 20 championship matches and he hasn't fought anyone? You are obviously a hater.
Gladly.... Name anybody on Floyd's resume.. that can match up with... Chavez Nelson McGirt and Vasquez That's just for starters.
Agreed. Easily? How is it easily? How is his defense being "flash" take away from the fact that he evades punches extremely adeptly? Whitaker has been down a handful of times, due to his balance. 2 or 3 tops in his prime if I remember right. Floyd has been down once against Judah, though there was absolutely no pushing of the head or anything. It was clean. There's little separating the two in terms of knockdowns, and defense is really more about the continuous ability to evade blows than it is about how many times you've slipped up. Whitaker's defensive performances against Chavez was more impressive than anything Floyd has offered. Constant lateral movement, relentless shifts in upper body positioning, responsible and perfectly timed offense. What performance does Floyd have to compare? None of his best offensive opponents pushed him to that level, and when they did challenge Floyd, Floyd got tagged and controlled to an extent. I'd be fine with saying they were equal, but Floyd being superior simply isn't evident. Whitaker was stopped far past his best so that's irrelevant. I don't think you have an argument for ring generalship so that goes to Whitaker, and even overlaps with the argument about defensive prowess.
Like i say if you like the showboat type of defense (ala Jones also) that avoids punches but does little in return then thats your taste. Floyd can do what whitaker did except his defense hurts you a lot more than Pea. He is there to punish your mistake. Take Oscar for an example... he backs Floyd to the rope coming in. Floyd parries and as soon as he sees an opening. Right to the chin, 1 sec later another one. His eyes NEVER leaves his opponent. And i'll repeat again. Try it yourself in a fight and you will know which is harder to perform. A lot of what pea does for defense will fail him as soon as he gets old. Just ask Jones jr. And as soon as pea got a little out of prime, he wasn't nearly as effective. Floyd got both. It is no contest.
This was the best you could do? This isn't EVEN close to the same... Let's break this down shall we... JMM... This win while impressive in how dominating it was... Let's be honest... JMM wasn't fighting EVEN close to his natural weight. He had moved up MULTIPLE divisions past his best weight to fight Floyd. So it's was impressing in how dominating it was.. not because JMM was a monster at that weight or it even was his best weight. Oscar??? Are you joking me??? This was an EVEN MORE past his prime Oscar and a weight drained as well. Do you agree that Pea fought a MUCH and I mean MUCH better Oscar than Floyd did? Mosley?????? BWAHAHAH... Again is this a joke??? This again was a Mosely fighting WELL past his best weight and well past his prime. How on God's green earth can you even list this as a top win shows exactly how weak Floyd's resume is. COrrales THIS is imo is HIS BEST WIN. Not the jokes of wins you listed prior. This was a solid win.. much like the Castillo win.. However, NONE of those fighters compare to Chavez first of all. Second Nelson, while moving up, didn't move up far at all, and was much closer to his prime than Oscar.. Mosley or JMM. To go further, Pea DOMINATED Nelson... I maybe gave Nelson a round or two and that was being generous. Vasquez... There is another name Floyd would NEVER go near in his life. Vasquez was a beast and 4 divisions above Pea best fighting weight and a champion. Not only would floyd never fight him.. he has nobody on his resume that even comes close to Vasquez. Floyd never fought somebody that much bigger than him and dangerous. Lastly Mcgirt, McGirt was a solid champion and a very good fighter. That win, again, was above Mosely... DLH and JMM... It was even better than Corrales, as McGirt is a best all time fighter compared to COrrales. So, I'm STILL waiting on the fights that are even close to the ones i named... I didn't even Mention Ramirez (again better than Mosely.. Oscar and JMM wins) ****, the Haugen win is better than most of Floyd resume.
bunch of bs. didn't even bother to read. That guy is better bc i said so mess. You got ZERO prove. It is clear, that you are not a very logical person.
@ bogo, Put it this way. If i have the ability to master the style between the two, i would pick Floyd. Pea's defense lacks control. He is a lot like Jones, he relies on his atlethicism. Floyd has both and his defense is built to last. He controls his opponents. He takes his opponents punches away, punishes their mistake, and he counters extremely well. Take Oscar vs Pea for example. I had Oscar won the close match. Sure Pea made Oscar miss but HE DIDN'T do anything to punish Oscar. He was out of range and shot jabs at Oscar. When Floyd avoids punches, he counters back with hard shots that is accurate and Flush. Hard to lose the decision and hard to be outworked when you can't hit him but he is tagging his opponents left and right.