Attribute Test (Mayweather vs. Whitaker)

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Delahoya is a poor mark of comparison.

When he fought Whitaker he was young and reaching his prime, while Pernell was on the way out (Punch output had dwindled from early days).

Conversely when Delahoya fought Mayweather he was on the outs(slow and sloppy) while Floyd was still around his prime.

 

First of all. Pernall is NOT that old to a point he can't handle an up and coming elite fighter. You can make excuses all you want for Pernall. Look what bhop is doing to young guys. Look at what FLoyd is doing to young guys.

Youth counts for something but so does experience.

 

Seriously, you are a very awful poster. You lack common sense.

 

Fair point, this. Pea's style is far too unorthodox and heavily based on reflexes and instinct to ever master or duplicate for anyone besides himself. He was outrageously talented. There are certain areas of course where he's textbook perfect but Floyd is much more technically sound and strict to form. Him having world class athleticism, reflexes, speed, etc. of his own gives him a lot of different wrinkles and variables to utilize within his style.

 

As if Floyd never fought any in prime elites. You are too stupid. You cared to do any research?

 

It is what it is.

Floyd got pure defense. Pea is a moving target. That moving target eventually will stop as well as the fighter.

 

You stupid mofo. Was castillo and corrales out of prime?

Was judah, hatton, JMM out of prime?

Was Ortiz, Jesus chavez, Carlos Henderaz, angel manfreddy out of prime?

You are getting exposed knowing less and less per post.

BTW Chavez Sr was "out of prime" when Pea got to him so STFU.

 

Well first of all you're making broad generalizations. Whitaker has hurt plenty of his opponents and is a great counter-puncher. Sure, he goes rounds focusing on his defense, but so does Floyd. The opinionated assertion that Floyd's counters are somehow worth more says nothing about ability. It's also odd to use DLH as an example, because he got backed up constantly and spent a good amount of rounds being negative. Winning, but being negative.

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Whitaker, much older, was much more competitive and offensively dynamic against a much younger, explosive DLH. And he definitely controlled the ring better. So not only does the example of DLH contradict your assertion that Floyd's counters are across the board more effective, it also speaks to the fact that past his prime, Whitaker was able to do things Floyd wasn't in his prime. The fact he got stopped later just means he waited to long, which can happen to any fighter in the history of the sport, including Floyd.

So seeing as your own examples work against you, I fail to see how Floyd's defense is superior, especially when you completely ignored my pointing towards evidence of superior defensive performances against more challenging offensive opponents. At worst, Pea is on par with Floyd.

And Pea is the superior ring general, still.

 

IF Pea slows down that is his problem. If he can't extend his prime is also his problem. If he chooses drugs that is also his problem.
Sounds like he just wasn't as good as Floyd.

 

There's absolutely no doubt that Pea is a great fighter, an elite fighter in my top 21 ATG list (higher than Floyd)

But Floyd would beat him. Too physically gifted, better defensively, better chin, better punching power, etc.

There's a reason Floyd's compubox stats are far superior than Pea's.

46% of Floyd's shots hit his opponents. Only 16% connect on him.

That's how great this man is. No one can match him.

It would be a war of attrition and Floyd would beat him

8-4, 7-5 or 9-3.

Pea would lose this one.

Pea beats a lot of people at ww, but Floyd isn't one of them.

Floyd has an aura of invincibility. No one could beat him.

He isn't meant to lose.

 

Pea got tagged several times in your gif btw.
Again, Bhop can handle younger guys, Floyd can as well. If he can't beat an up and coming elite that is his problem.

Floyd fought a more experience Oscar with all the advantage.

Pea got experience vs Oscar's youth

but

Oscar got the experience + advantages vs Floyd's younger age.

How is this not an even trade. Don't make it sound like just bc a fighter is older they can't win.

Pea stop doing things, well you know Floyd stopped doing a lot of things as well. The difference is that Floyd never been put on his ass and never got stopped and will more than likely not lose so someone who is 14-2 either.

People can talk down his opponents all they want but the reality is that Where is Pea at Floyd's age????????? He was losing, thats where he is.