Angel Heredia: "If Pac Did Arizas Training, He Would Have Peformed At A Higher Level"

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Actually, this was the slowest JMM Ive seen and He still wiped Pac out. Pac is dumb man. He relied too much on his athleticsm.
     
  2. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As a Pacfan, there was nothing Ariza could have done for him to avoid that right. Either Roach and/or Pacquaio was to blame for not seeing it coming.
     
  3. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heredia is correct and this was a point i made when i predicted Marquez to stop Pacquiao.
     
  4. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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    manny looked better than he's looked in years during the 4rth fight.
     
  5. Miguel

    Miguel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao looked the best he had for years - his footwork and movement was excellent, Marquez was not hitting him consistently. PAcquiao's mistake was all mental, not physical - he smelled blood, was so desperate to KO Marquez and in such a hurry that he got ridiculously reckless, messed up and handed his chin over.

    Great counter but come on, Pacquiao's handed his chin to Marquez.

    Up until then PAcquiao looked strong and the momentum was all with him since round 3 - he lost that fight because he failed to read the situation
     
  6. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    It's really hard to say, but I do wonder if incorrect conditioning work contributed to the punches having more of an effect on him. There's a lot to be said for strengthening the neck and leg muscles having a positive effect on punch resistance.
     
  7. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    A bitter problem was no doubt Pac's passion for and dedication to the sport.
     
  8. mishima

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    ARiza and Memo have a alot in common
     
  9. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    hold your horses there brutha. juan's hayemaker was there since the first pac-jmm war. it was just juan mastered it and made this technique more powerful by training his body how to punch that kryptonite at its deadliest point.

    and pacquiao never ever corrected this flaw. manny's footwork is not a concern here. even if manny has his primest, bestest, testest whatever footwork in the 4th, charging juan like that would be a suicide. If I was Pacquiao, I could have been defensive on the fight specially when I see Juan's Hulk body in the days leading to the fight. that hulk body was made to kill him FFS.
     
  10. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    spot on. that was what juan was waiting for. all juan needed to do is pull his **** up and prepare to counter that reckless pacquiao strut. he already saw that pac kill on the first round of the first fight, and he cant fell for that. that was why he never fell for that move on the next 3 fights.
     
  11. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Offensively, yes. Defensively he was horrible. And truth be told he didn't look that good offensively. He was just aggressive.
     
  12. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No amount of training can reverse age / wear and tear.
     
  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Of course, as soon as Pac stopped doing Ariza's training he got progressively worse each fight. Mosley was a poor showing then getting beaten by Bradley and Marquez.
    It's not PEDs, it's called strength and conditioning and very few do it or get it right. Pac isn't a smart guy, he still likes old school morning runs and sit ups, he needed a guy like Ariza to do the thinking for him and tell him what to do.
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

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    :deal
     
  15. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah. ......a round that Juan was losing before scoring the knock down. Of course it was a 10/8 round but. He definitely was losing that round.