Whats your current top 5 at 140?

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Garcia
    Mathhysse
    Peterson
    Khan
    Judah

    Something like that. Rios doesn't belong yet. Top 10, sure. Not top 5.
     
  2. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only reason Rios is not in the top 5 according to many is because he hasn't done much there. But they seem to forget that Rios can't fight the other top dogs at 140lbs because of the feud between TR/GBP. But Rios deserves to be on the top 5 easily if it weren't for that conflict.

    Garcia
    Matthysse
    Khan
    Rios
    Peterson
     
  3. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a close fight, in which many people thought Khan should have won. Also Peterson was on PEDs for that fight.
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Beating Alvarado doesn't make you top 5.
     
  5. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Peterson didn't beat him up.
     
  6. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    1. Mattysse
    2. Rios
    3. Garcia
    4. Olsegun
    5. Alvarado
     
  7. zetsui

    zetsui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would still rank Khan top 5 strangely enough. Not sure about Garcia...very close to it he had good wins over Theophane and Holt. Morales was meh..
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    1. Matthysse
    2. Garcia
    3. Peterson
    4. Khan
    5a. Allakhverdiev
    5b. Judah (debatable with Khabib)

    Rios is an honorable mention, but to me, clearly behind these 6.

    Not true at all.

    He just entered the division in October, 2012. He has been at 140 for a total of 5 months now.

    His record in the division, not counting being overweight for his last two LW title fights and not counting fights against "nobodies" slightly above the LW limit on his way up, is 2-0. Win over Alvarado, and over Omri Lowther in 2010 on the Pac/Margarito undercard. That is it.

    His resume at 140 is simply nowhere near the depth it needs to be to be a top 5 at 140. Alvarado was in the back end of the top 10 when Rios beat him, not in the top 5 himself.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Uhhhhhhhhhhhh...


    Maybe H2H if you wanted to make that argument.
     
  10. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    I thought the list was your top 5 at 140. I think ajose olsegun and mike Alvarado both beat kahn and Peterson.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    People have long been stating almost unanimously that Matthysse is #1 at 140, yet this thread seems to show the opposite.

    Why are people all of a sudden honoring the Ring's lineal title when in the case of Garcia/Khan, it was CLEARLY not the two best at 140???

    The rule changes that allowed for the title to be on the line occurred literally less than a month (I think it was 1+ week) before their fight. It was the first major sign of Golden Boy clearly and indisputably manipulating the Ring Rankings to boost the perceptions of their fighters.
     
  12. oibighead

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    1) Garcia
    2) Matthysse
    3) Peterson
    4) Khan
    5) Judah
     
  13. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. garcia
    2. lucas
    3. rios
    4. lamont
    5. khan
     
  14. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Because he's an absolute moron.
     
  15. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    DON'T YOU MEAN WHO, not what