Is Floyd Now a Bigger Draw Than Oscar Was?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by turbotime, Jun 13, 2012.


  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Nah that cant be correct what did better than Mayweather Delahoya ?

    And yes they all need a dance partner to do the big numbers its all relative .That's why I beleive that a Pacquio /Mayweather fight could have eclipsed all of that ..
     
  2. El Lucho

    El Lucho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well oscar had pernell and chavez to hype him up. but oscar had a more interesting life story than floyd, looks better than floyd, talks better than floyd and was overal better to sell to a bigger audience than floyd.

    just imagine a prime oscar, looking as good as he looked with his life story, the way he fought, knocking everybody around, still being a technician vs a prime pacquiao, with his own interesting back round and super fun to watch fight attitude. oohhhh arguably boxing historys biggest $$$$$ ppv jackpot only behind ali - tyson and robinson - leonard :hat

    finaly we agree on something :lol:
     
  3. NWS

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    How can you not Love Him? :-(

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  4. I'm reading a lot of articles from 80's to early 2000's.

    I think it became a true 'niche' sport in the States starting from around 2000+
    Lewis-Tyson brought it back to the mainstream for a few months than it literally died out.



    During the 80's.. Sports Illustrated and various mainstream magazines/channels were LIVING on the Fab Four and Tyson ... on par really with NFL for a lot of those fights and build up.

    During the 90's the decline was obvious, but Bowe still had his world tour and Tyson come back really made boxing mainstream for a few years again. Tyson-Holyfield was more talked about than a lot of NBA Playoff matches especially since it was 96-97 with the NBA going into a temp dark period.



    Something of interest.

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    I was looking at boxrec and during the 80s
    Boxing made the front cover of Sports Illustrated 30-40 time..or around that number.

    During the 90's it was around 30 times as well.

    From 2000 -2010
    Boxing made the cover of sports Illustrated 2 times.

    Lewis-Tyson and Floyd Oscar.

    (I don't think Pacquaio even made it once, but an American fighter with his skillset and excitment in the 80's era would have at least made one cover, I could be wrong. but I'm pretty sure the only fighters to make SI Cover were Floyd-Lewis-Tyson-Oscar in the 2000's era)
     
  5. It's not just in America with the decline.

    I don't think posters here realize how massively popular Benn-Eubank and Frank Bruno were in England during the 80's and early 90's.

    Bruno had his own god damn catch phrase for Christ Sake.

    Everyone was using it.. He had his own little 1-2 with Henry and was in countless commercials.. England loved Bruno.. it was Ricky Hatton but on a decade long relationship.

    A third of England watched Benn vs Eubank.. it was a clash of class, a clash of cultural differences.


    It's funny because non British fight fans think of Bruno as this dude with a 'glass chin' or whatever.. or someone who break down in big fights.

    Lewis knocked him out.. but Lewis never won the affection and adoration Frank Bruno did. Win or lose with Frank Bruno... the guy usually give it his all and was always proud of the Union Jack.


    Lewis won the belts and the glories and the ATG Rankings.. but Bruno won a piece of England's heart.
     
  6. NWS

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    England jumped on the LL bandwagon a little late.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

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    It's important to remember that Oscar's PPV stardom was built on his own. He was a draw solely because of himself. He didn't rely on piggy backing off someone else's name to build those numbers.

    Whereas as the same can't be said for Floyd. He had to be blessed with Oscar's golden touch to become a PPV star. Same goes for Manny. And that's what GBP need to be aware of for Broner if they're expecting him to fill Floyd's shoes. They need to ask themselves, 'Is there an Oscar out there for Broner?'

    Edit: Not to mention, Floyd has largely benefited from the 24-7 hype machine. Oscar only had those for two of his fights. Whereas Floyd's been living off them for six or so fights.
     
  8. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this fight with Guerrero will say a lot on this subject.. Floyd pulled nice numbers with Ortiz who wasn't a big draw, so it'll be nice to see what he does with Robert. As of now I'd say yes based off the Ortiz fight, but the Guerrero fight might change that.
     
  9. NWS

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    Floyd is the Oscar for Broner. Too bad he'd get his ass spanked.
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    and that they have the same manager :-(
     
  11. NWS

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    Floyd isn't going to offer himself to anybody. He's going to keep shining and banking whatever he can, and **** everybody else.
     
  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I hope Canelo wins :verysad
     
  13. NWS

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    Against Trout or Floyd?
     
  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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  15. NWS

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    :rofl

    I dunno man... Your love for Oscar is such that you will cheerlead the success of his company and it's fighters. You probably want Canelo to KO Floyd if it came down to it :verysad