how long would Ali,Holmes,Foreman,Lewis have gone with Vlad & Vitalis opponents

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Why will he be admitted into the hall of fame?. You dont know how he will finish his career and the ways its going he's doing a good job of keeping himself out
     
  2. janitor

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    Can you name a unified champion who put together some sort of period of dominance, who did not get into the HOF?

    In fact I think he might be admited automaticaly under criteria.
     
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    Calzage is unliky to be enterd because he coasted along and played his career to safe...He has the claim of being undefeated...Maybe he will get in , but its not a given.....What did dominance do for Ottke? Nothing.....The last HW's to get in are Lewis, Tyson and Holmes....Wlad would have to beat all the guys around today to match them and he's not going to do that....He will finish his career on a whisper or suffer another loss.
     
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    So lets look at the common factor here.

    Tyson unification

    Holmes longevity

    Lewis unification

    It seems that unification in a prominent division prety much makes it a slam dunk. Without weighing in on the quality of Wlad's opposition one way or another, I simply cannot se him not being inducted.
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    Holmes fought till he was 50 , beat top undefeaded fighters past prime,fought ATG'S, fought like a ture champion and had a career Wlad will never have........Tyson made history , beat hall of famers and ATG's. Had skill in his prime that has not been seen since.........Lewis beat ATG's, defeated everybody he ever fought, fought on top of the world stage throughout his whole career , just like Tyson.......None of them shared the division with a relative..........
     
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    Roy Jones is penalized for having a poor record but its miles better than Wladimir Klitchkos.
    No hall of fame will award him status for fighting nobody's, avoiding mando's and sharing the worst HW division known to man with his brother and still came up with knockout out loses.
     
  7. janitor

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    You are not getting your head around this.

    The IBHOF has set criteria for induction, and if Wlad meets them he will be inducted automaticaly.

    Even if he does not meet the criteria for automatic induction, he will almost certainly get past the balot based on having dominated a definable era.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Get your head around this- he hasn't dominated his era.
    Guys he lost to , avoided and hasn't fought:
    Prurity
    Briggs
    Valuev
    Lewis
    Maskerv
    Saftypin Johnson
    Sanders
    Adamek
    Arreola
    Chisora
    Povektin
    Fury
    Pulev
    Scott
    And he has never been undisputed or beaten the no.2 in the division.
    How is that dominating an era?
     
  9. janitor

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    The question that you are asking is "do I think that Wlad should be in the IBHOF".

    The question that I amn asking is "what are the IBHOF most likley to do".

    I don't think that Jimmy Braddock or Ingemar Johansen made a clean sweep of all the top contenders in their era, but they are still in.

    Given that Wlad was clearly the top heavyweight on the planet for a number of years, it seems inescapable that he will be inducted.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Placement is evaluated on strength of competition fought. Being safety first in a weak era and struggling with Sam Peter will be held against him. Povektin has been top 5 ranked for the last 7 or 8 years, beat Wlads best wins and is unbeaten...Is he a shoe-in as well?......
     
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    safety first in a weak era well put dino
     
  15. janitor

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