Geographically Inherent Stylists

I agree TBooze and all the Graham supporters amaze me, they talk like he never got a chance, he was a Top fighter and he got 3 chances and failed.

do you know how many great TOP fighters would have killed for even 1 shot. Scheesh!

 

Eduardo Lausse fits in with your Argentina list.

No. That's a German school of fighting mainly trained by Wegner (Huck, AA, Murat). Eastern Europe has a great deal of variety.

I always wondered if it had to do with the influence of other martial arts like Taekwondo.

No. The only fighter that remotely resembles Klychko style is Taras Shelestyuk and i would compare it more to Kotelnyk. The most common style amongst Ukrainians is the peek-a-boo popularized by Vasyl Lomachenko. We also have quite a few polished sluggers with peek-a-boo inluence. Lots of head movement, lots of angles.

Can't think of any Russians that fit your Klychko description either. Keep using stereotypes from 20 years ago by all means though.

 

I don't think it did hold them back. Hamed wasn't dedicated in his training and if he had maintained the mobility of the likes of Graham. And Hamed didn't lose until he became more orthodox anyway.

Johnny Nelson is probably Wincobanks greatest success story, a journeyman becoming a dominant champion/belt holder in his 30s

Rhodes may have been let down by the low hands defence but

Then you have Witter a WBC champion. As a local gym they've turned out how many world champions? They haven't done too badly for themselves with a style that doesn't work.

He was still the best British MW of all time :deal

 

I think Wegners style of boxing is awful, I mean, I really dont see it working in any other era of boxing. And I hate watching it, there is no mixture of offence and defence, it is one or the other. I find it very amatuer-ish.

 

there's probably over a hundred others spanning the years in British boxing that don't just say no, but who would have done so with their fists.

150 yrs of Boxing is a long time and Britain has had quite strong middleweights through most of that time. :deal

 

I think it could be that, definitly.

I've always tended to think, they would have had no, or very little access, to other fighters from America, Europe etc... And so they sort of developed there own fundamentals (not too variant though),and obviously the influence of one great fighter like Harada is going to be a lot more influential, than in a country with 3 or 4 top fighters with different styles.

 

This is a great topic for a thread. Kudos to the originator.

A couple things have struck as I review the posts:

1. Trainers influence the style that boxers from a particular region have.

2. The style of the current champions from a region influences the style of current up-and-coming boxers from that region.

I think the current "American" slick, boxer-puncher, Philadelphia-esque style of boxing has influenced boxers from around the world, e.g. Pirog in Russian, Proksa (Poland) via the UK, and different, but still influenced by it, Martinez from Argentina.

 

Lastly, how would people characterize the Thai style of boxing? The Philipino style?

 

I agree that some similarities between Pirog, Proksa, and Martinez can be drawn but what does that have to do with Philidelphia? Name a current, or past for that matter, notable boxer with a similar style. Philly isn't know for that style. On topic Proksa's improvisational style seems popular in Poland (Proksa, Szpilka, Masternak) all have those elements especially on defense but i don't think its a good thing. Its actually there biggest flaw and makes them vulnerable.

 

Elorde, Navarette, Pacquiao, Penalosa, Gesta, Gorres any others from the pre-90's?

 

Ben "The Machine" Villaflor.

And his KO of Shibata is identical to Pac-Hatton KO.

 

Maybe it's not a Philly thing, your improvisational approach categorization is perhaps a better description. In any event, it isn't a style that is typically associated with Eastern European fighters. Rather, it is more associated with Americans.