The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Such a dick sucker of posters you are. Half your posts are you just doing this crap... :roll:
     
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    Somebody should Sig this. That's the problem dude.


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  3. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Such a dick sucker of posters you are. Half your posts are you just doing this crap
     
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    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Hopkins turned it down.
    He has been labeled a racist. He is an American athlete.

    He got a pass. In fact he is now called an ATG and a certified living legend.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

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    I aksed you about the stadium. Why choose to focus and reply to his instead? :huh
     
  6. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    All the people defending Manny in this thread....would you be defending Floyd?
     
  7. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    I think I might just do that...Also put up how that ***** couldnt finish a day off in a boxing gym yet he brings his dope fiend ass on here like he's king ****.:lol:
     
  8. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Hopkins did not turn it down..Pascal brought it up at a press conference after the contracts were already signed
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

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    :patsch You'll repeat any lie that you like won't you. And you think you're the better poster acting like a child playing repeatrer, and posting lies?
     
  10. Rudyard

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    You'll repeat any lie that you like won't you. And you think you're the better poster acting like a child playing repeatrer, and posting lies
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    :roll: what a child....
     
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    I'm aware of the gate but a minimum of 50 k in attendance ,I'm sure the gate wouldn't have peanuts ..It may have sold out ,imagine 100 k for a boxing fight ?
     
  13. larryx2012

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    hold up...you went to the gym and couldnt finish 1 day?
     
  14. bald_head_slick

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    Team Pacfraud's request was unprecedented due to it being retaliatory and designed to scuttle negotiations. Still, it was agreed to. Why? Because Mayweather wanted to fight.

    You are creating a fiction-of-convenience. Asking the USADA to do testing is all that was done. The USADA does not "collaborate" on testing protocol. If they test, they test a certain way. They reserve the right to choose the sample. They have no cut off date. So again, asking for a testing does have precedent.

    I see the disparity. You don't seem to be able to.

    See here is where Pac was attempting to create his own protocol. FMJ was just asking for testing by the preeminent testing body in the country. Mayweather's motives are irrelevant as he would be subject to the SAME protocol as Pac. He could be a complete coward hoping for Pac to fail. If Pac was clean? It would not matter. Pac refused to test though.

    Again, this is NOT an issue if Pac made the argument based on PRINCIPLE. All Pac had to do was say no and issue a statement. Pac did not do this though and now agrees to testing. What changed?

    I am pointing out just Pac because Pac is the only fighter who lied like this to avoid testing.

    I don't care about Pac's other opponents. They may be subject to any number of reasons why they don't ask for testing, e.g., guilty of cheating too, willing to be hurt regardless, management doesn't care, etc... most likely though, they are not in a position to ask for testing AND have any reasonable expectation to get a fight of the same magnitude, i.e., they do it for the money.

    Is this another "fiction-of-convenience"? You are making this up. What evidence do you have that stated FMJ has any power over the structure of this? As far as I can tell this is "in-competition(event) testing". The start date for testing is when camp starts. This makes perfect sense as Boxers are already subject to year round testing.

    [url]http://www.usada.org/[/url]

    [url]http://www.usada.org/program/[/url]

    [url]http://www.usada.org/contract-testing/[/url]

    What you really mean to say is Floyd signed off on the weight penalty AND the drug testing because making 147 or passing the drug tests wasn't ever going to be a problem. The reason there was not a fight was because Pac would not agree to drug test. :deal:hey
     
  15. Loudon

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    He gave into Floyds testing demands to make the fight, but he wasn't going to give Floyd everything he wished, so he negotiated. They both have huge ego's and Manny wasn't going to jump through hoops for him. Floyd wanted Manny to be tested every single day leading up to the fight. Manny said he was happily to be randomly tested during any part of the first 6 weeks of his 8 week camp, but wanted to be left alone for the last two weeks. He also added, that he'd be happy to have a test straight after the fight. But that wasn't good enough for Floyd.

    Now if you're implying that Manny needed the 14 day cut off to hide something, tell me how it would have benefitted him.

    He'd have had roughly an 8 week camp.

    The first 6 weeks he'd have had to have been clean.

    If he was willing to be tested straight after the fight, he obviously wouldn't have been able to consume much in the last week.

    So realistically you're looking at a 7-10 window where Manny could do what he wanted.

    Hypothetically, what benefit would Manny have gained, if he'd have juiced 1 week in 8?

    Go and Read JohnnyDrama's great posts.

    What Manny agreed to, should have been more than sufficient.
     
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