The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

atsch Believe whatever you want. Never said ANYTHING resembling this. But we both know you'll take Rudy's word over mine.

 

Internet tough guy *******

 

:rofl:rofl:roflI'm not making this up! That ***** acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread and his bitchass talks all tough on here but comes to find out...His dope fiend ass is softer than wet tissue!

Ask Bball for the link...He's been laughed at since he made that post...Now his ***** ass wants to act like he didnt say that and we're just making **** up about it!

 

STFU Nallege... :roll:

 

Yes, post the link. That will show EXCACTLY what I said. Thank you!

 

You're not getting it. I'm not going on about who's to blame.. Let's start over.

Why do you believe Manny and team didn't agree to testing without cutoff at first? You believe it's because they accused him, and he wasn't going to have testing dictated to him due to the accusations.. Right?

I'm simply asking, why would he try to negotiate cutoff dates if the issue was him being accused of cheating, then told he needed to do these tests to face Floyd? Why wouldn't he just say "I'm not a cheater, I'm not going to be dictated to." instead of "I'll take the tests to prove I'm clean, but only between this date range I choose."?

 

Yes, post the link. That will show EXCACTLY what I said. Thank you

 

Because it was basically ripped out of thin air as a reason for delay why a fight could not take place on May 5. Because the MGM is currently the most high profile venue for a prize fight in the world. Because the revenue generated from an outdoor stadium wouldn't yield any additional revenue and even DuBoef admitted this. Because Pacquiao has fought at the MGM himself numerous times without incident. It was just an excuse, nothing more or less. I didn't reply because of what I quoted. What's the sense?

 

That situation is completely different. Here is why:

1) The request was made POST negotiations and in a fit of disrespectful rage.

2) Hopkins outright said, "No." No negotiating.

IMHO, I think one has to accept that there is some level of suspicion, but we must give Hopkins the benefit of the doubt due to the circumstances and his history of insane dedication to the sport.

 

It was discussed early on enough where it would have been feasable.

Who cares if the MGM is the most high profile venue? What does that really matter?

Even if it didn't yield 'additional revenue', so what? It would still allow more boxing fans to attend.

It was not an excuse, it was an attempt to maximize fans exposure. Similiar to the fight in texas which had what, some 30K in attendence?

It's mind boggling how you fans are so against this idea.

 

First, what I put in bold is a flat out lie. Really dude? That's where we're going? :-(

So Floyd thinks he's dirty, and Pac's concession to Floyd's testing demands is to test only in a period he chooses? Do you REALLY think that would Fly?

Also, Manny and them wanted at least 21 days out UNTIL the video of him having blood taken for the Hatton fight surfaced, showing him having blood taken about 2 weeks out from the fight. What's the reason they wanted 21 days at first, but suddenly can change because a video surfaced of him having blood taken closer to a fight? You say it was because he didn't want to give into Floyd's demands, but him having blood taken closer to the fight with Hatton has NOTHING to do with giving into Floyd's demands. They could have still stuck to 21 days out if it was a decision based on giving in to Floyd, but they changed because the reason they didn't want to test close WASN'T because of morals or giving in to Floyd, it was stated that he didn't want blood taken close to the fight. :yep

I'm not implying Manny was dirty at all. I'm just pointing out the ****ed up logic in the way they negotiated, as I don't think they were trying to negotiate in good faith. His fans claim it was due to his morals or giving in to Floyd, but the stances they changed during negotiations and reasons behind it don't add up with that thinking. That's what I'm trying to get at.

 

And B-Hop could have easily said yes and be done with it. As others have claimed Manny could have done.

Disrespect? Really? Almost every boxer, B-Hop especially, is known to be disrespect fighters.
"White boy" comment remember?

No B-Hop gets a pass like many American athelete gets a pass - as long as they are successful and no hard evidence is presented - they get a pass. PBF will get a pass, B-Hop will get pass.

MacGuire, Sosa, Marion Jones, Bonds, Peterson, and countless other successful and semi-successful American boxers got a pass. So to say PBF will not get a pass is a straight contradiction of American professional sport history.

Once hard evidence is discovered (or credible witness) then American sports love to tear you apart. But as long as you are succsseful Americans will turn a blind eye. For ****s sake, it tooks 2 decades of steroids before MLB and the fans and the media to look all these athletes - even black ones, even hated ones like Manny Ramirez.

 

this excuse could have been fine and dandy..... if Floyd wasn't on a TIME LIMIT.
Arum knew that Floyd only had a few months before getting incarcerated. the stadium along with the "cut can't heal in time" excuse was just an excuse to avoid Floyd. Arum never wanted this fight. when will people realise this?

 

What's mind boggling is how the majority of Floyd fans are able to come to terms with the idea that he takes a good portion of blame for the fight not happening, where as you guys are deadset and thoroughly convinced 100% of it goes directly on Floyd's shoulders when it obviously does not. This is what Rudyard explains to you in every thread about it, but you just won't have it.

 

How was there an actual time limit when Floyd's legal standing were still unknown for the most part? He had an impending court date and sentence. For too much of this, Floyd's availability was not set in stone.

Why am I responding to you anyway? You say stupid **** like "Pac a ******", so you're pretty much the same as what you call *******. :roll: