The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Yeah if you know how the business works a little and compare it to past events, 40 million was fair.
People think Floyd and Manny were going to get 100 million dollars EACH. And that Floyd offering 40 million, meant he was gonna keep like 125 million for himself. When really, I could have seen Floyd getting 60-65 million dollars at the most.
So essentially Floyd was offering a 60/40 split or possibly worse if the ppv under performs.

 

If he tried to meet Floyd halfway, why did he say 21 days at first, then change it to 14 days after the video surfaced of him having blood taken for the Hatton fight? I'm not seeing why he'd change his stance after the video surfaced, if his issue was giving in to Floyd instead of the issue being him giving blood so close to the fight?

Others things stopped the fight after the testing, nobody is saying it didn't. No reason to move onto the other things when there's an issue with the beginning though.. I don't see how you can be 'accused' of cheating and demanded to take random tests up to the fight, and your response is you'll take tests in the date range you choose... How someone thinks that's a response that will be accepted is beyond me.

 

After the first negotiations breakdown in 2009-10, Floyd went on to see a per fight earnings increase of roughly 60%, moving into the $40-45 mil a pop stratosphere (Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto) even without Pacquiao who was getting what, $6-8 million from Uncle Bob? :verysad

 

yeah they screwed up bigtime.

Floyd got from 15-25 million from Oscar to Marquez. Then he jumped straight to 40 million for Mosley and hasn't gotten less since. Pacquiao in the meantime highest payday is 32 million irc.

a 50/50 split could mean, Floyd gets 50 million dollars and Pacquiao gets 50 million. That just don't make no doggone sense

 

Floyd clearly made a lot more money than Pac per fight after the first negotiations, but people want to act like they should have stuck to 50/50 because in 2009 it should have been 50/50. The longer they took to sign the fight, the further apart they got in terms of earnings. It's not even worth arguing that, anyone thinking they should just stick to 50/50 because it was fair years ago doesn't know **** about business and shouldn't do any without hiring someone first.

 

Not to mention that Arum has not allowed the official numbers on multiple Pacquiao fights to be released, was always against Schaefer's idea of sitting down and cross comparing their books, and why does Pac need to take out advances from Top Rank on the verge of supposed mega paydays if Bob is taking care of him so well? The guy has been thoroughly milked and used up.

 

I should have worded the bit you highlighted in bold better.

Floyd wanted Manny to be randomly tested at any point leading up to the day of the fight.

Manny said no, then asked for a cut off, because he didn't want to give blood in the last two weeks, but he was happy to be tested straight after the fight.

So yes, the specific reason given, was that it weakened him giving blood.

That goes hand in hand with him not backing down to Floyd and just agreeing to everything.

I get where you're coming from.

But Floyd and his fans were saying "take the test" so he came back with "ok, BUT..."

So again, in my opinion everything went hand in hand.

But it's all irrelevant anyway, because Manny gave into everything in the end, but it still wasn't enough.

 

This excerpt from Thomas Hauser's 2 part article entitled The PED Mess

PBF can hardly call himself clean can he, just like Manny can't either. Speculation all well and good but sound evidence needed. In my eyes both are are suspect & the whole debate is now mute as they are not likely to ever fight.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-two

 

I don't know how much strength 'rumors' lend to this, but at the very least, this shows that the state commisions should get ALL results regarding tests from an outside agency.

 

Considering that came from one of boxing's most known and decorated writers, I was expecting something further to come of that. He's on the complete opposite end of the totem pole compared to someone like Gabriel Montoya, and I didn't think he'd publish that unless he knew or was aware of something beyond a simple 'rumor'. Nothing ever came, though.

 

Not yet. Sometimes these larger expose articles take time to get made public. It's all about copllecting data to make a case.

This could come back and blow up in Floyd's face, or it could simply dwindle down to nothing.

 

That's kind of my point. Nothing's been proven to a degree of absolute certainty about either fighter.

The problem with the Commission issue rises when looking at the the Erik Morales debacle, nothing seems certain. That's the nature of contact sports at this moment in time.

 

Agreed.

 

A guy openly running away from stricter testing is way more suspect than some hack online boxing writer making up a rumor about a guy who OSDTs every fight for years. Those are two entirely different scenarios and is laughable to consider them similar in any regards.