List all the fighters you'd favor over Prime Calzaghe 168-175

I think people underrate the hell out of Calzaghe

 

Man there are a lot of butthurt Americans, you cant stand it when a fighter from another country is better its the same with the Klitschko's at Heavyweight

Around the time Calzaghe was fighting at 168-175 ill only pick the fighters who were active around then as my knowledge of 175 prior to 2000 isnt very broad and Calzaghe only fought twice at 175 at the end of his career so we dont know how good he would be

Prime Roy Jones - Jones had an over rated resume but he was still an exceptional talent. this fight goes to the scorecards with Calzaghe touching the canvas at some point in the fight but getting up to out land Jones when he lays against the ropes and allows Joe to throw which he had a tendency of doing. Coin flip decision on who wins this one

Prime Chris Eubank - Despite still being a tough competitor when he fought Calzaghe, Eubank was never the same post Watson. a different mentality and he could quite possibly beat Calzaghe in a close fight on points

Gerald McClellan - Difficult to gauge as we never found out how good the Gman truely was but whilst boasting a win over Roy Jones Jr in the Am's its safe to say it wouldnt be an easy fight for either man. Points decision coin flip on who wins as Calzaghe didnt have the power to do what Benn did

and thats pretty much it, I cant honestly think of anyone who would beat Zaghe at 168 or 175 in his era or even this era

Ward would be outsped and outlanded, he is a rough copy of Hopkins but doesnt have the power that Bhop had.

Hopkins always struggled against fighters with fast handspeed and a large punch output

Toney was over rated past 168 and performed inconsistently along with being one of the most deluded fighters I have ever seen with losses to Thadzi and Griffin on top of the Jones loss

Hagler lost to a former welterweight in Leonard and pushed by Duran, he is not knocking out Calzaghe and Calzaghe would be too big for him to handle despite never fighting north of 160 to my knowledge

Tarver was over rated because he stopped a badly drained Jones (who he lost to in the first fight and couldnt stop in the rubber) since then what did he do other than fighting Johnson, Griffin and Woods he did nothing at 175 til he was stopped by Hopkins

Calzaghe was perfectly capable of beating anyone in his era and the only people I think beat him are coin flip fights in which anything can happen, Calzaghe was just that good

 

This was funny but James Toney beats the breaks off Joe this isn't Byron Mitchell or Charles Brewer ..Joe has never fought anyone as well rounded and as defensive as Lights Out !

 

Robin Reid and Bernard Hopkins

 

Griffin and Thadzi didnt seem to have a problem

 

Scored them both to Calzaghe 115-113

Reid was a good fight but no competent judge could ever score that fight for Reid

 

Did they beat him at super middle ? The best James Toney was at super middle !

 

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Who the **** did Toney beat at Supermiddle besides Iran Barkley who was KO'd in 1 by Benn 3 years prior?

Toney's 168 resume doesnt even compare to Calzaghe's

Toney made 3 defences of his IBF crown in the space of a year losing his last defence to Jones

Calzaghe made 21 defencesof the WBO over a space of 10 years picking up the IBF, WBC and WBA titles along the way against Lacy and Kessler and should have won the WBA and IBF sooner if not for Sven Ottke

Seriously Toney is over rated past Middleweight, and even his middleweight record isnt that good

SD vs Merqui Sosa
SD vs Reggie Johnson
D and MD vs Mike McCallum

 

And who the hell did Joe ever beat at super middle that can even compare to a middleweight version of Toney ? Veit ,Reid ? Thornberry ? I love this the man hadn't had an elite opponent in front of him since a faded Eubanks up until Kessler 10 yrs later ! You really think Joe's looping slaps is going to phase Toney at super middle ? If so give some examples of who he did tha too tha had Toney's defense !


And your really reaching your knocking him for having split decisions with hall of famers the likes of Johnson and McCallum? Your sounding like a boxing rec warrior right now ..

 

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Reaching? Im sorry but I wasnt reaching, I realise how good those wins were but they were far from dominant victories and again they were at 160. I said that because people were reaching on a SD vs Hopkins and Reid when anyone with half a brain knows that Reid in no way won that fight, it was 115-113 at best in Calzaghe's early years as champion

Toney did well at 160 but past it he didnt fight anyone worth notice with the exception of Iran Barkley who like I said was KO'd in 1 by Benn . . . did Toney fight Benn? no. Eubank? no. Watson? no. McClellan? no

Calzaghe was going to fight Collins for the WBO before he pulled out and Eubank stepped in and was unfortunate enough to be fighting when SMW wasnt that strong and Sven Ottke was robbing everyone blind

Calzaghe beats Toney on scores of 117-111 / 116 - 112 / 115 -113 by out working him

 

Far from dominant wins ? Sorry Toney wasn't fighting the Lacy's of the world ..And your score cards are comedy gold ! I have never heard the argument that because they weren't dominant wins against hall of famers that they weren't any good :huh. But lets not talk hypotheticals because we all know Joe would have never come close to fighting a you g Toney his actions through out his career prove that ..Im sure he would come up with the excuse that he was afraid of driving ,taking boats and the classic afraid of flying !

 

Toney undoubtedly was a very skilled boxer but he was like Eubank in that he could look brilliant in one fight but he could look like **** in the next. He had no consistancy when it came to being able to put in a great performance against everyone. So while his skill-set may have been well-rounded, and his defensive abilities outstanding, there was clearly something mentally which prevented him displaying those abilities in every situation.

Prime-Super-Middleweight Toney struggled with Montell Griffin. Griffin's speed and reflexes made the fight very difficult for him. Toney's legendary power and defensive abilities were not able to help him catch or stop Griffin. Both fights with Griffin were close affair that could have gone either way but Griffin won by outlanding and outworking Toney both times. Griffin was not faster, didn't have better reflexes and wasn't a better boxer than Calzaghe. The only person Toney ever fought with more speed and better reflexes than Calzaghe was Prime-Jones who made him look silly.

Therefore, given Toney's diffulties with faster opponents, and whatever mental block that prevented him from performing at his best all the time, I dont think it can be taken as a given that's beats Calzaghe, let alone does so with ease.

 

What a troll post.
Calzaghe would loos to 90 percent of that list prime by prime.

 

Why every american starts his list with RJJ and Hopkins who Calzaghe beated?