How did you score Bellew-Chilemba?

The bolded part is where I strongly disagree. I also had Bellew winning the first few. Think I gave him the first 3, maybe one even round in there. Chilemba took two on the spin, then Bellew won another for me if I remember correctly, but the later rounds were where Chilemba did his best work! I find it strange that you gave these rounds to Bellew, Apart from the 12th which you could score either way. You say Chilemba did good work but didn't do enough of it. In these later rounds he may not have been doing much but he was doing a hell of a lot more than Tony who by this stage was deflated and doing nothing at all. By then he was the one on the back foot. The few times when he did get on the front foot he landed nothing so you can't reward him for hitting thin air/gloves and arms in the same way you couldn't reward Valuev for hitting thin air against David Haye just because he was throwing more. Only punches that landed should count, and in the later round Chilemba landed significantly more than Bellew.

 

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I understand the concept of what your saying mate FFS! but Chilemba's lack of output was alarming, he wasnt throwing enough, and when he was it was in response to Bellew forcing the fight, its not like Chilemba was in the center of the ring the whole fight and literally picking Bellew! he was having his success on the back foot in single shots, for me it wasnt enough to have him banking rounds.

If a man can stand there and throw one or two shots in reply to 10 on the front foot in combination, I'm sorry see how Chilemba is winning the exchanges.

This wasnt De La Hoya Mayweather, Chilemba was too in-active IMO.

 

This is a dreadful post. Fights are not scored on activity or "pressure", nor do you get extra points for "making the fight".

But equally, Chilemba spent much of the fight moving Bellew around, dictating the fight on his terms. That's ring generalship.

Chilemba landed the more eye catching work more consistently, that's effective aggression and clean punching. Finally, who was the guy being forced to miss? Bellew, so you've got defence.

In all four of the key criteria Chilemba was better, not by much, but enough. It was a two round sort of fight, so definitely not a robbery.

 

I scored it for Chilemba by two. Second half of the fight Chilemba was the one landing the clean, effective punches. Bellew simply was not doing enough, his tempo dropped, he was not putting punches together and nothing was really landing. Basically, he let Chilemba fight at his own, slow tempo.

Chilemba was inactive but Bellew let him get away with that. You've got to get on top of a guy like Chilemba, not let him think and pick his punches. Like you say it wasn't a masterclass but he did enough, the work from Bellew was not substantive enough to justify giving him the rounds.

 

Onced Chilemba settled, round 5 or 6 Bellew seemed deflated, yes agree'd! and he was operating on the back foot throwing his signature lead left hook, looking to hurt Chilemba coming in. A tool he used to great effect as an ama, it hasnt quite worked as a pro at this level for hi lately.

After 8 Bellew seemed to acknowledge this and began fighting or attempting to fight "once again" on the front foot, it was here I became disappointed in Chilemba, and the reason i did, is because he had survived the storm and began to look like he could potentially have Tony in fits, not that I was rooting for Chilemba I wasn't, but I dont like watching capable offensive fighters merely surviving.

At this stage I felt Chilemba was plodding and Bellew was pressing, Chilemba looked un-willing to go in and force Bellew to think, and Bellew was still throwing in 3's and 4's

Yes! some of these shots were being rolled and slipped/layed but by the law of average if you are throwing 4 shots and your opponent isnt throwing and only looking to avoid, your probably going to hit fresh air by the end of the combination.

Overall it does appear that my views on this matter are in the minority, but have to be true to what I believe, Chilemba was too in-active for me to reward his good work by winning the round, he done some good work but IMHO NOT ENOUGH

 

buddy did a good job last night , but that south african coach kept saying opposite of what buddy was saying

 

No one is saying you don't have a right to your view, but you started off with a ridiculously wide scorecard claiming Bellew was robbed!

 

Haha, I thought this aswell.

I hate corners where you having multiple people shouting at once. How the **** is a fighter - who's mind is probably all over the place anyway and he's having to try and physically recover aswell as think for himself - supposed to take in instructions when he has different people screaming at him?

 

I dont need invitations to state my views, you must have worked this out by now!

I said I must stay true to what I believe is "winning a fight" when the more technically sound fighter in most areas in being bullied by the bigger fighter who is lesser in technique, providing the more skilled fighter is hitting the bigger fighter frequently that individual is by default out-boxing the bully.

I do not believe Chilemba was throwing enough, I do not believe Chilemba had the intentions of wanting to throw / land and score damage.

Therefore in my opinion Tony Bellew was winning the fight, this is a generic view on the fight as a whole, and i stand by my scoring, Chilemba wasnt doing enough to win rounds, rounds in a boxing match last 3 minutes, when you break 3 minutes down into exchanges its a long time, a lot happens, for me Bellew was doing more to state a claim to put that round in the bank.

Yes Chilemba in the middle of the fight was putting Bellew on the back foot and in round 8 Bellew looked out of ideas, but Chilemba didnt kick on! why? And Bellew took action.

 

115-113 Bellew but willing to admit I may have been influenced by Sky commentary as I was getting dressed while the fight was on.

I think the issue with the fight is that Chilemba won 5 rounds clear and the rest were open to interpritation.

 

I never said you did. Stop being so defensive, no one owes you a breakdown either.

Why didn't Bellew keep up the activity from the first few rounds? Was that a tactical choice or was he struggling with Chilemba's defence and countering?

No one gives a fight away, it's always in response to what the other man is doing.

 

Take's you 36 minutes to get dressed Rob?.

 

Bellrw landed **** all.
Chilemba was landing quite regular from rd 7 onwards
simple really ..aggresion cant be scored if there is nthing landing .i seriously cant beleive so called knowladgeble boxing fanscouldnt see this last night

 

I'm combative naturally, part of being born and raised in Liverpool unfortunately, did I say I was owed a breakdown? ...........

Bellew was basically being outboxed round about the middle of the fight, after a substantive period of him bullying Chilemba. Once Bellew was working on the move for a couple of rounds he addressed this, and stopped looking for that left hook moving backwards.

Im not saying from this point Bellew resumed where he left off at round 4, he just began the offensive application again, and Chilemba seemed to stop the good work he had procured in the middle of the fight, simply because he was un-willing to put himself in harms way! at this point it was clear to me 2 things.

A) Bellew had seen his best work in this fight go by, and it wasnt coming back, he was going to have to go to the trenches from here in, something he done I will add.

B) Chilemba with a bit of balls could have upped his work and potentially dictated this fight on his terms fully, not just partially. He didn't, instead opted to go back to almost strictly a counter puncher. who doesnt actually counter.

This is where I began to give Bellew some rounds again, because Chilemba stopped, his output was just too low for me.

 

yeah 115-113 chilemba seems like the general consensus.