Joe Frazier gets destroyed by the KLITS!

If people here saw more of your opinions on hypotheticals like Vlad-Frazier, they'd know what your "analysis" is really worth.

Haye, unlike Frazier, actually has heavyweight dimensions. Even at cruiser he was well over 200 pounds in the ring, that's why he moved up. More to the point, Haye is an outside fighter, he's trying to stay outside the jab. Frazier is plodding right into the jab and other punches. Haye was able to avoid getting hit, Frazier would not be.

George Foreman on Frazier's amazing elusiveness: :rofl

Foreman could barely box and, guess what, he could barely miss Frazier.

This is ridiculous. Frazier kept getting up but he could barely stand toward the end. If they let it continue, Foreman would have knocked him unconscious. Also, Foreman's punching technique was much worse than Vlad's and cost him a lot of his power.

There goes that wishful thinking again. Watch Vlad turn Chambers' lights out with one punch in the 12th and show me Ali doing something more "physical" than that.

Frazier's opponents? You mean opponents like glass-jawed light heavyweight Bob Foster? Or cruiserweight Jimmy Ellis? Or the great Buster "Fat Ass" Mathis? Frazier's resume and reputation really rests on his fights with Ali. Frazier got bombed out by the biggest puncher he faced, twice. In my opinion, Frazier couldn't deal with really big power. His defense is nowhere near good enough, and he has only one gear and poor survival skills. That's not going to get it done.

Since when is Frazier a fleet-footed opponent? You gotta be kidding me. And save the amateur psychiatry please, I'm not buying it. Vlad's jab is not going to lose conviction because Frazier will be right in front of him eating it, walking right into it.

That is absolutely preposterous. You want to put your credibility on the line? How many people here you think are going to agree with you that guys like Jerry Quarry are more powerful punchers than Vlad?

 

This isn't about Haye, you're grabbing for straws. And George Foreman is George Foreman, not Hercules. Vlad hits harder.

 

Anyone who doesn't agree with you old time nutbags and presents an argument is a "sensationalist troll". Like I said before, I'm not here to protect your fragile psyche and your make-believe comic book world.

 

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Look at mans face in background, Tyson would **** Klitschko in front of everyone at the weigh-in.

 

Vitali would batter mike worse than douglas

 

Every time I start to write a post about this I convince myself I'm wasting my time and delete it. I think that's a sensible decision.

 

You have no understanding of styles at all. On a styles basis, Marciano has a better chance against Vlad than Frazier, and in reality Marciano has no chance in hell. As far as calling guys like Frazier and Marciano runts, I wouldn't have to do this if nutbags didn't constantly claim that they would be competitive against much bigger fighters when they clearly didn't have the skills, the size, or anything else to do so.

 

:rofl

Thanks for that. Sent me off to bed with a smile on my face.

 

I find I ask myself that question A LOT on this forum!

 

They've never faced a machine like Joe was that night of 71 and they never will.
He would beat both Klits...

 

Rusak.

Just No...:-(

 

Vlad is about 40lbs heavier than Frazier at his best. That is a huge difference. And Vlad has legit one punch knock out power in both hands, he's one of the biggest punchers ever - something you refuse to recognize for some reason.

You seem to think that Frazier is superhuman. You say that Foreman couldn't knock him out cold but that's ridiculous. Give Foreman another minute or so and Frazier is unconscious. "ATG" is just a label you're hiding behind. The laws of physics and physiology don't care if he's an ATG. Manny Pacquiao is an ATG too, Marquez iced him with one shot. Duran-Hearns, Walcott-Charles, there are many examples.

Frazier was a little bigger than Marciano and maybe a little faster but Marciano was a legitimately two-handed fighter and better/dirtier on the inside. As for Marciano being easier to hit, listen to Marciano talking after his career and Frazier after (or even during) his.

 

they might able to outbox him but if gets on the inside....itll be hell to pay esp for wald

 

Lewis is 6'5 245
Wladimir is 6'6 245

Lewis got a inside game. He throw uppercuts and combinations to the body.

The reason Wladimir's right hand look like it is the equal of Lewis is because Wladimir's right hand is his only offensive weapon. Lewis got the hook, the body attacks, the upper cut, the combinations, everything.

Wladimir will become Lennox's ***** the way his big brother was starting from Round 4.

The Uncle Tom Doctor robbed Lewis of a Pele Reid moment by stopping the fight to save the Ukrainian from dying in the later rounds.


Wlad most likely threw the fight against Sanders to avoid an aging Lewis in 2003.




As to Frazier?

Who knows. Wlad's chin is pure glass.
It makes Lennox's look like Hagler's.
If someone farts on Wladimir's face.. his chin might shatter.

 

Tell me more about your fantasy world Brittard. What's the root cause of this? It it chronic constipation, incessant neurotic thoughts, lack of funds to secure a good stash of Earl Grey? All of the above, plus the lousy outsourced tea biscuits from Bangladesh? What, tell me?