If Hatton retired at 43-0, is his resume better than Calzaghe?

Joe all the way.

 

i dont think calzaghes wins against jones should be accounted for at all fighting jones at that stage in his career is the same as fighting a journeyman. Also the hopkins one was a good victory but also controversial split decision and hopkins even though still very good and dangerous was obviously past his prime but then one could argue that so was Joe

 

How was it controversial? The only ones who dispute it at the butthurt Hopkins fans. Joe won that, CLEARLY.

 

I still don't understand how Hatton destroyed Tszyu... The guy(Hatton) got the worst chin on the planet

 

If Hatton had beaten Mayweather then yes
If Hatton had beaten Pacquiao then yes beyond a shadow of a doubt

but he didnt

Main difference is when Calzaghe went down he got up and won
Hatton went to sleep and the senchenko loss didnt help either

Calzaghe - WBO/IBF/WBC/WBA 168 and Ring 175 - Lineal Champion ( 1997 - 2008 )
Hatton - IBF/WBA 140 (lineal) (also WBU/IBO titles which dont really count)

168 during Calzaghe's period wasnt as deep as it is now whilst Hatton had major names in Cotto, Margarito, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley along with other domestic champions in Rees and Witter who held the WBA regular and WBC belts

You could say Hatton wasnt managed properly but then the same can be said about Calzaghe seeing as they had the same promoter but then you compare their work ethics and Hatton boiling himself down to fight after abusing alcohol and eating kebabs and such you can see the difference in professionalism (both abused cocaine after their career which lost them a lot of respect from myself and many other fans)

 

Well if he had of beaten Mayweather he wouldnt have retired and would have stood a good chance against any of the 147 fighters

But then if he stopped at Mayweather a lot of people would argue that Mayweather was weakened coming down from 154 after the SD vs Delahoya, not saying thats what I think but it would be how people would have seen it (especially the *****s) and if he had beaten pacquiao it would have been because Pacquiao was too small for the weight

But still those 2 wins would put him ahead of Calzaghe along with the Malignaggi TKO by miles . . . . . but end of the day you can say shoulda/woulda/coulda til your blue in the face, Hatton didnt so . . .

Calzaghe > Hatton

 

No. At 43-0 Hatton still hadn't beaten anybody as good as Kessler, and his win over Kosta is very similar to Joe's over Hopkins and Jones, the opponents were just too old to be anywhere near prime.

I give props to Hatton for doing the one thing Joe admitted he avoided: Hatton ultimately took on the best the world had to offer. He got KTFO, but he took his shot. I respect that.

 

Except for the mere fact that Tszyu, immedaitely before Hatton, blew Sharmba Mitchell out the water.

It's inaccurate to say that about both Hopkins and Jones (saying they are similar to Hatton's win over Tszyu). Especially since, right off the bat, Hopkins and Jones were miles apart in terms of their ability, and ratings in the ring.

Joe's win over Hops was close, but a good win. His win over Jones, rubbish.

 

Tszyu is a much better win than Kessler.
Koysta is a Hall Of Famer, Kessler will unlikely ever be.

 

Tsuyu was NOT a much better win than Kessler. Kessler was a MAGNIFICENT win for Joe. Especially not the version Hatton beat down.

If Hatton was 44-0 with a win over Mayweather, it'd still put him SLIGHTLY below Calzaghe overall.

 

Hatton on controversial UD

 

Definitely better than any win Calzaghe chalked up. But Hatton's resume is thin as hell.

Calzaghe definitely has more better wins.

If we're talking OVERALL resume, I'd say Calzaghe edges it out SLIGHTLY (Even if Hatton had beaten May)

 

Can't believe I'm arguing on behalf of Joe Cal, but here we go:

Kessler has gone on to significant wins after losing to Joe. Nobody Hatton has beaten has gone on to much success other than Paulie, who followed horrible corner advice in that loss.

Tszyu retired after losing to Hatton. Jones should have retired before facing Joe. In my mind, they're even.

Maybe Hopkins shouldn't be lumped in with the shell of Jones, but he was clearly past prime. Yet he's still gone on to more success than anybody on Hatton's resume.

Joe Cal has about the thinnest resume out there, but Hatton somehow manages to be below that standard. Where Hatton trumps Joe Cal is in respect. Hatton stepped up to the plate. Joe Cal admitted he didn't want to.