Scott Cardle lack of power

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by USA Rob, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    8,853
    Likes Received:
    5
    new professionals tend to not get ko's these days because not many set their feet or stalk, imo
     
  2. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,561
    Likes Received:
    5
    He's only 24. Cleverly hasn't had a problem with it, he's grown over time in that aspect.

    I haven't actually seen Cardle, and that's the best way to assess a fighter's prospects.

    Power is one of many attributes boxers can have or not have, as long as he's well equipped in other areas who's to say he can't progress?
     
  3. USA Rob

    USA Rob Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2012
    Messages:
    5,610
    Likes Received:
    0
    Cleverly couldn't stop Karpency and Hawk. Both are ****.
     
  4. bam bam

    bam bam Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Messages:
    3,589
    Likes Received:
    0
    Lee Selby only scored one stoppage in his first ten fights. This kid is still learning. He might have to learn how to sit on his punches more, throw the right shots at the right time etc etc. He may have little power but I wouldn't say it's a concern.
     
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    Its a concern, how much of a concern depends on what your expectations are. If you're talking about eventually becoming world class, its a massive issue. There really aren't very many fighters that make it to that level that can not punch. And let's be clear about this, with Cardle we're actually looking at somebody that doesn't have a punchers technique, so he's not going to develop power until he overhauls his entire punching style and mentality, so a lot of these comparisons with Selby etc are not that apt. I havn't seen a lot of early Selby, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't throwing with snap, it may just have been that he was fighting conservative opponents or perhaps other factors, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't throwing with conviction and technique and suddenly he fights Stephen Smith and then all of a sudden we see a change. I wouldn't expect to see Selby punching like Cardle is after 10 fights.

    It's not too much of a concern if you reign in the expectations. You can operate at British/European level without much power, if you're good enough. You still need to be better rounded than a guy that can punch, that goes without saying.

    In a more broader sense, I havn't been that impressed with him, even seeing him live. I think he's going to have a hard time under pressure. He does some nice things but I remain unconvinced he's quite skilled enough and talented enough to deal with somebody thats going to outgun him.
     
  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    30,856
    Likes Received:
    18
    He could bang in the amateurs
     
  7. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    3,629
    Likes Received:
    1
    Do people think Chris Eubank Jr will suffer from the same problem? Seen him land a few clean shots with his feet planted and the other guys have took it and covered up. For me Eubank Jr has a lot of things going for him,his age being one of them. His lack of power does concern me though
     
  8. richard mossley

    richard mossley Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    5,101
    Likes Received:
    1
    Cleverly had a real poor ko record until he fought Oakey
     
  9. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    7,071
    Likes Received:
    4
    If you're going to critisise fighters for not having a huge punch then at least get your facts right. Cleverly stopped Hawk, and whilst he might not be the hardest of punchers, he's done quite well for himself so far.
     
  10. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    10,495
    Likes Received:
    5
    I dont think its much of an issue really. I was at the Rose Harris bill in Blackpool he scored a pretty devastating bodyshot knockout. The fighter had only been stopped 3 times and had previously gone to decision with Marisili.

    My advice would be for fighter with perceived lower power to work on their bodypunching. Look at Ricky Hatton for somebody who wasnt massively powerful but used the bodyshot to his advantage.
     
  11. smegmaa

    smegmaa Undefeated Champ Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    3,001
    Likes Received:
    0
    Not at all, there are numerous world champions that have not carried any power. He looks slick and quick with good reactions.
     
  12. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,561
    Likes Received:
    5
    Stopped Hawk.

    He's a bigger puncher than he was when younger.
     
  13. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,561
    Likes Received:
    5
    Exactly. I wouldn't say he has one-punch power, but he's definitely got enough of a wack to keep opponents honest.
     
  14. CamR21

    CamR21 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,948
    Likes Received:
    0
    It wont be a massive problem as power isn't a neccesity to get to the top however I think he needs to make big improvements if he is going to progress much further in pro's.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes beat him in all honesty
     
  15. BoxingAnalyst

    BoxingAnalyst Obsessed with Boxing banned

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    19,099
    Likes Received:
    1
    Not a surprise at all. He's said he will go down to super featherweight, his next fight is a 135. He is flabby at 140, he's dropped and hurt a few guys, he just doesn't seem to have that killer instinct.

    Wasn't it the Sky commentators that said he wasa puncher in the amateurs?