*** Jon Jones VS. Cain Velasquez.. Super fight!! ***

my boy Jones got this.

 

atsch just stop posting.... your embarrassing yourself.
in the meantime maybe you can occupy yourself with replays of lewis vs botha or holyfield vs Vaughn 'my own mother couldn't identify me' bean

 

Good matchup.

Initially I think it all depends on Cain's ability to take Jones down, he has a nice 2nd and 3rd attempt off his first, he's very consistent/ persistent with his attempts.. Can Jones stop a Cain takedown? I don't know..

2nd, I assume Jones is the better striker, but at the same time Cain has been making guys with way better striking than him look lost in their own game.

Jones by default knows where Cain want's to take it, and might just have enough to stay off the ground.

I'm pretty torn on this fight in every aspect. Hard to compare guys when they have such different opponents and styles.

 

black men are studs. end thread

 

**** off Johnstown!

 

is it?
please elaborate on how the 93kg jon 'bones' jones keeps the 112 kg cain 'i take down whoever the **** i want' velasquez from smashing him through the floor when 98% of heavyweights cant.
i cant believe people think this would be a legitimate contest. bones could probably beat a number of heavies but cain would THRASH him.

 

Jon won't have seen the arena from the perspective Cain will give him prior to dumping him on his arse.

 

Cain

 

It's not that simple. People view losses much more harshly in boxing because the fights are more predictable, i.e. a loss is a stronger indicator of level. Whereas in MMA a loss can often be due to the less predictable nature of sport (a much wider range of ways to lose, a less mature sport overall, amongst other things). So MMA fighters aren't typically written off in same way that a boxer often experiences after being 'exposed'.

In boxing you have to protect your investment because of that, and because you run the risk of becoming high risk/low reward. In MMA, not so much, you'll get your chance again if you are good enough.

To say that boxers fight other "pro boxers fighting their way up" is totally false in most cases. In fact, the exact opposite occurs most of the time. The opposition is usually picked to be one that is the lowest risk for highest reward (due to protecting the investment as discussed above). The opposition is usually on an obvious decline (either age, wear and tear, or some other reason), or has visibly peaked (so there 'true' level is predictable). It is actually pretty rare for boxers to face other up coming prospects until they are established enough for it to be worth it financially.

Take Mayweather as an example - he fought journeymen in his first 15 fights - certainly no one that would be a challenge for him. That kind of matchmaking is the norm in boxing (and often for many more fights than 15!), and is generally not an option in MMA.

 

Exactly.

How many times do you see a boxing card, and every single fight is a blatant mismatch because the promoter wants to keep his cash cows and prospects undefeated?

Whereas in MMA, a card is far more likely to be full of 50/50 matchups. Which makes for a far better night of fights. :smoke

:hat

 

Every LHW cuts from above 205, i.e. the heavyweight limit

 

So you are saying Jones is one of the few LHWs who are cutting weight? :shock:

 

In the event that Jones actually beats Sonnen, I'll play along.

I think Cain wears him out and by the end of the 5th round it is a GnP fest by Cain. Cain takes a decision 3-2 in this one.