I have never seen a case like Roy Jones Jr. Was it mental?

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  1. GoldSugar

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    check chris byrd. too many weight jumps plus age means youre setting up for failure
     
  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Man did you see his cheek bones and **** leading up to Tarver 2? Roy wasn't the same when he came back down. A blind man can see that.
     
  3. bailey

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    This was before Roys fight with Calzaghe.


    Roy Jones Jr: My body is back down to my normal weight now. As opposed to when I fought Johnson when I was not at my normal weight. I was coming down from over 200 pounds. Now I am down to where I am walking around at about 185 so I am good.

    http://www.15rounds.com/roy-jones-jr...script-110208/

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    "I'm feeling magnificent now," Jones told ESPN.com. "It [the knockout defeats] was never a case of being too confident. It was the trauma of coming down from heavyweight to light heavyweight. My body got dehydrated after losing all that weight, that's all. Now my body's completely readjusted."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3684713
     
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    Did not look like **** beating the **** out of Woods and while humiliating Ruiz :deal
    He just looked a little bit slower because he was 34 years old.

    Fact is that he looked like a drained fighter in the first Tarver fight and because of his weak chin he got taken out in the second one.

    One punch ended his career and thats a fact.
     
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    There's some documentary about Jones in the lead-up to the Ruiz fight, where he says that he went into training camp at 192lbs and went up to nearly 200lbs by the weigh-in, but the scales were off, which was why he came in at 193lbs. He had to lose more than 10% of his body weight in muscle, nobody's recovering from that in a hurry, especially at 34/35.
     
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    Still does not explain Tarver 1, Tarver 2 he had even more time to readjust being back at 175.
    The whole theory would have been sound if he got knocked out in the first fight.

    Its like people just want to forget that first fight.

    Also making **** out of weighins and leadups :rofl , im sorry but the amount of times ive heard "oh he looked sick at the weigh in" , "So gaunt".
    Roy looked like Roy in the ring physically.
     
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    :lol::lol:
     
  8. DeadLikeMe

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    We are witnessing this same cycle with Pacquiao right now. It isn't the first time and isn't the last time we will see this happen. The real criminals are the people that are still letting Roy step into the ring.
     
  9. Mind Reader

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    Dropping the weight from HW permenantly hurt an already declining body. Tarver did catch him in the second fight, but Roy's reflexes and legs at that point were not at his prime level.. He was nearly 35 by that point.. It was too much of a setback, for that age and point in career, and a fighter like Roy.
     
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    The first Tarver win was Roy's last great fight.. He was in better shape going into the second fight, but at that point he was for sure past his best.. He was still an elite fighter though, which is why I give Tarver a decent ammount of credit.

    I think the knockout loss was just too big of a setback at that point in his career to overcome.
     
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    We all know Roy bull**** his way all through the Calzaghe fight, before and after.:deal
     
  12. bailey

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    You seem so butt hurt. You just struggle that Calzaghe handled Roy the way he did.
    You defend Roy and then say something he says is untrue to suit your agenda

    Here it is again

    "I'm feeling magnificent now," Jones told ESPN.com. "It [the knockout defeats] was never a case of being too confident. It was the trauma of coming down from heavyweight to light heavyweight. My body got dehydrated after losing all that weight, that's all. Now my body's completely readjusted."

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    . Looks like Calzaghe beat a better version of Jones than Tarver and Johnson
     
  13. conraddobler

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    rapid deterioration with age happens all the time.

    It can happen in one year. It's sometimes more obvious in other sports because you can compare stats from year to year.

    Some guys just fall off a cliff as they reach their early or mid-thirties. I remember Akeem Olajuwon, he was still an elite player one year, and the next year he could hardly score a point. He was shot.

    With Roy, the loss of even 5% of his athletic ability was deadly. It was just enough to make him touchable and Tarver exploited that 5% decline. By the time fought Calzaghe he was at 60%.
     
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    Bailey knows that Roy Jones was shot when he fought Joe Calzaghe.
    He just pretends to think otherwise to troll people like you that take the bait.
    Don't feed the troll.
    Thanks
     
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