RJJ record V FMJ record

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: Why the **** am I supposed to acknowledge that as if it means ANYTHING to what you and I are going back and forth on?

    I wasn't talking about Jones or Hops' size, so that's nothing I need to comment on.

    Holy **** man....I know I call you dumb, but jesus christ on a cra.cker you dumber then I even realized. :patsch

    You haven't schooled ANYONE. You just say that to fool yourself like the other board morons.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    It's Del Valle. And given how he was able to compete with Virgil Hill, I'd say the Mitchell and Baldomir wins definitely fall under.

    I'm not disregarding the rest but it's the best wins that matter. Why argue about the bottom half of a resume's top ten best instead of the top half? Floyd has a bunch of very good wins, but RJJ has two great ones that stand out and don't get outweighed by Floyd's lesser wins.

    This whole thing is opinion, but it's opinion based on fact. Hopkins and Toney were in their physical primes and Jones toyed with them. Even if Jones outweighed Hopkins he still did it with a broken hand. And people forget Jones was somewhat "green" himself. A supposedly drained Toney was more skilled and accomplished than a drained Corrales, and more formidable than a past-it De La Hoya. If none of Floyd's wins can top that, who cares if he beat the Judah's and Baldomir's and Chavez's and Hatton's?

    Every win has something you can critique about it, but the fact is two ATG's in their prime were toyed with by Jones, and you can't say that about anyone on Floyd's resume.
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Get over your butt hurt already. You hold a grudge like a 16 year old *****.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: Do you know how to repond to something you've claimed? Answer this....WHY would I need to acknowldge Jones weight when I wasn't even talking about it?

    YOU, on the other hand, tried to post something on Ruiz' ranking only to be questioned about it.

    :patsch You're stubborn and stupid....the two worst things to mix together. I'm sure you'll go far in life with this mentality.:roll:
     
  5. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    There is zero proof of this. Jones said he would sometimes go up to 175. They said nothing of B-Hop's weight.
     
  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The debate at the time for Pound for pound #1 was between Pernell Whitaker and James Toney.
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones wins over Hopkins and Toney trump any of Mayweather's wins. However, Mayweather has the deeper resume.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You've already been owned on the thread last week.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hiya pal!

    Long time, no speak.

    I've been reading your recent posts trying to bait the Roy boys ha!

    Floyd put up every obstacle he could to not fight Manny. Everyone fights Manny without demanding what Floyd did.

    We've discussed the DM situation a million times. The $12M was said in frustration to a reporter, and that was to go to GERMANY.

    You've seen all of Zod's links and my links and the videos etc.

    HBO tried to make the fight, and DM and Kohl weren't interested. They even offered DM $5M which he turned down, despite the fact he was only making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Rofl and not one fighter has turned down testing but Manny, nice logic.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're clearly not doing a fair assessment.

    You can twist anything to suit your own argument.

    Here's a few things to consider:

    Ruiz was not cherry picked.

    Roy barely lost a round in his prime.

    Hopkins didn't lose for 12 years after he lost to Roy, and Roy had a fractured wrist and was only 24. Hop said "The only fighter I believe to have beaten me clean with no controversy was Roy Jones." He said that in 2010.

    You have listed Paz, and not Virgil Hill, who he destroyed with a beautiful 4th round body shot.

    Floyd's biggest names like Mosley and Oscar were past their best. He beat Oscar on a split, who'd only fought about 3 times in 4 years.

    When did Floyd ever pack a load of weight on, and fight two divisions above his best weight?

    Roy came back from heavy at 35, after 50 fights, to fight a hungry motivated Tarver, and won.

    Floyd arguably lost the first Castillo fight.

    When has Floyd ever taken a risk like Roy?

    You belittle Ruiz, well lets see Floyd fight a ranked 160 fighter.

    I can go on and on.

    And you think Floyd's resume towers over Roy's?

    You're having a laugh!
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    ^ this
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy started out at 154.

    A weight jump from 130 to 160 would be an incredible jump.

    But that fighter would be facing a guy who weighed in at 160.

    Roy jumped up to 200, to face a guy weighing 220 plus.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post!
     
  15. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just stop, you're getting ****ing schooled bro.