Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

I agree. Holyfield is the 'real deal' he is a top 5-10 heavyweight. A case could be made he's top 5.. quite easily too.


Evander Holyfield have this to say about Lennox Lewis

"Everybody ducked Lennox to fight me. I owe my career to Lennox. Tyson didnt want to fight Lennox.. Riddick didn't want to fight Lennox. They wanted to fight me'







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FBI Investigation into robbery

FBI investigation into the riddle of controversial fight judge Eugenia Williams' secret bank account. Williams, who controversially scored last week's fight between Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield in favour of …Evander Holyfield
is under investigation for a large sum of unaccounted for money





Round 5 fix?

Round 5 was scored a Lewis Round by 99.95% of ring side judges and writers.

YET Round 5 was given to Holyfield.. resulting in the draw.

 

Lewis-Holyfield

Round 5 corruption.

The round that robbed Lennox.






Published: Tuesday, March 16, 1999
MARK KRIEGEL
New York Daily News

IBF Judge Eugenia Williams could use a little judgment


NEW YORK - The fifth round of Holyfield-Lewis should rank among the most egregiously judged in heavyweight history. As per the Compubox calculations, Holyfield connected on 11 punches while Lennox Lewis offered payback at a rate of almost four-for-one. Lewis whacked Holyfield 43 times, many of those measured overhand rights, big, bludgeoning blows. Among pugilism's great puzzles is how Holyfield remained on his feet.

Still, that's a small wonder compared with the scorecard. Judge Eugenia Williams, representing the International Boxing Federation, scored the fifth round for Holyfield.

"I was able to sleep last night," she said from her room at the Pennsylvania Hotel yesterday afternoon. "I know I didn't do anything wrong."

Eugenia Williams did not see the same round the rest of the planet saw.

"All I could see was Lennox Lewis' back," she said.

Though she watched from the ring apron, Williams said her problem was vantage point. The TV cameras had a better one. "I could not see the blows that I saw on TV," she said. "On TV they showed a side view....(The judges) saw the fight from different angles. I even at times stood up (to see). But if I couldn't see it, I wouldn't score it. That's what you're told to do, score what you see. I may take a lot of heat for that. But I couldn't estimate. I scored what I saw. If I couldn't see, I couldn't second-guess."

Now she'll be second-guessed the rest of her life. The fifth round was only the most outrageous on a crazy card that had Holyfield winning 115-113. The British judge, Larry O'Connell, had a 115-115 tie, while South African Stanley Christoudoulou had a sane score, 116-113 for Lewis.

The attempt to crown an undisputed champion only yielded a great dispute. Was Williams' card an example of corruption, or incompetence?

For the record, Eugenia Williams makes her living as a municipal accountant for Atlantic City. She's been a boxing judge for 15 years, making her pro debut in 1989. IBF boss Bob Lee selected her to represent the sanctioning body at the bout to unify the heavyweight title.

"I was thrilled to take this fight," she said.

Her $1,600 fee was paid by the promoter, Don King. He paid for her three nights in a $125 room. He also paid for her meals in the form of coupons to Cafe 31, a far less upscale eatery than, say, the steakhouses where promoters and networks treat sportswriters.

Eugenia Williams didn't have to do anything "wrong" to make this arrangement wrong. It's a flagrant conflict of interest. It's also standard boxing practice. The promoter pays.

But from the looks of things Saturday night, King didn't mind the bill. He couldn't have been more happy with the draw decision. He can make another fortune selling another rematch. And so can Eugenia Williams' patrons at boxing's sanctioning bodies.

That's the certain corruption here, the campaign for a rematch. Evander Holyfield still believes in himself against all odds. But that crazy courage has become a form of dangerous denial, and the money men are exploiting it.

"I thought it was an acceptable decision," said Lee, the IBF boss. "I thought it was very close, but I can live with the scoring."

He can live with the judge he selected and her terrible take on that fifth round. "If that's what she saw, that's what I support," Lee said. "She's a good official, very knowledgeable, a seasoned veteran with well over 20 world title fights. . . . She attended all our seminars."

After the fight, with more than 21,000 fans still booing the decision, Lee met for a quick caucus at ringside with his counterparts, Gilberto Mendoza of the WBA and Jose Sulaiman of the WBC. "We decided there ought to be a rematch," Lee said. ". . . We could make it mandatory if we had to ... A rematch would be in the best interests of boxing."

It would also be in the best interests of the sanctioning bodies. The IBF gets 3 percent of the purse for sanctioning a title. The WBA and WBC get up to 3.5. For a fight like Holyfield-Lewis - with $30 million in purses - that's $900,000 right off the top.

The proceeds, according to Lee, are "used to run our office."

But lest you think the IBF runs an extravagant office, understand that the monies also go toward "various seminars."

The kind Eugenia Williams attended.""""

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The stupid **** was paid off by Don King. I am 100% sure of it.

 

RJJ did avoid Benn.

 

That's absurd.

Roy have had the biggest list of 'what if's out of any modern Great(and yes he is a great, but let's call it what it is)

Floyd could have fought Margarito, Pac, maybe Peak Cotto.. That's it.
If you really really stretch it..You can say he could fight Martinez.Canelo situation pending.


Roy on the other hand from 160-175 literally had a long list of fighters that he could have met up with at one time or another.


Benn
Eubank
Nunn
Mccellan
Jackson
Collins
Dariuz

That's 7 out of a possible 9 fighters he could have and should have fought.

Toney and Hopkins might actually had been the best of the bunch.. but that's like saying Lennox Lewis fought Holyfield and Vitali so he didn't need to fight Mercer-Briggs-Golota-Ruddock-Bruno-Tua... and instead let's fight against the Sam Peter's and the Maruiz Wach's of this world.


I know Roy was 'feared'.. but come off it.

You saying out of 9 fighters from 160-175 during his era.. only 2 wanted to fight him?

I refuse to believe Nigel Benn was scared of anyone and you probably don't believe it either.


One thing is obvious: Every top fighter Roy DIDN'T fight was a big puncher or a very good finisher...

 

During Roys run... from 160-168

Benn-Eubank-Barkley-Nunn-Jackson-Mccellan were all in the mix. Hopkins didn't fight any of them either... Roy picked Toney. that's an ATG win.. But the fact is he didn't fight any of the big puncher.


Later on.. Collins literally begged and chased Roy for a fight .. than Dariuz was politically robbed of his titles so Roy could keep up the ****ing farce on HBO.



Roy was the superstar.. If Benn was willing to go to war against a much more brutal Mccellan.. he sure as hell would be willing to go against Roy.

Michael Nunn was not 'scared' of Roy. He said the offer made from the Roy camp was a disgrace and journeyman status.


Dariuz situation speaks for itself.... Even HBO was pushing for that fight.

 

Ya but TOney was one guy and was never known to have the ferocity of Benn Or Mccellan. I'm not saying Prime Roy would have lost against Mccellan, Benn, Nunn, or Eubank.. but we do NOT know what would have happened under the relentless pressure of Benn or if Gerald caught Jones with a big punch. And the odds of that happening throughout 12 rounds is pretty damn high.

Benn and Eubank bled each other dry. Mccellan literally lost his life(in every sense of the word) in the ring against Benn.. during those times Roy was show boating and jigga hopping dingo punching guys like Vinny.