Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

There were a lot of reasons why those fights didn't come off. Promoters (Don King), network (Showtime), finances, etc. I think people forget that none of those 168lbers fought the best guy in the division (Toney) and that Jones obliterated the super middle they all had in common and they all struggled with (Malinga).

 

I said more than that not just the Malinga part actually. And I'm not sure why beating any of those non-HOF'ers leaps him up x amount of spots but that's another debate.

As far as his decline, it really wasn't confusing. You could see the start of it a couple years earlier. Why would anyone be surprised that someone whose 35/36 and been a professional for 15 years starts losing?

 

He beat the best two out of your list of 9.. Including these 9

Tarver
Hill
Johnson
McCallum
Ruiz
Griffin
Malinga
Gonzalez
Woods

Roy has 2 ATG wins, and several very solid wins, a couple almost great due to how he won. Not to mention he held a HW belt for a short period of time, which any HW is a "big puncher" to a former JMW.

He is clearly a greater fighter than anyone you listed, and will be remembered that way.. It is obvious they needed his name more than he theirs..

You also have guys like Calzaghe saying he wasn't chasing him, and Nigel Benn saying he didn't mind being second to him.

 

How on earth can Barrera be on that list.

Both Oscar & Tyson replaces him easily.

 

Holyfield or Sweet Pea takes this for me.

 

Holyfield's record is clearly superior

He beat Qawi after only 12 fights then knocked him out in a rematch a year later, a year after that he stopped DeLeon to unify all the belts at cruiser.

Then Holy moved up to heavyweight where on average, he was over 15lbs lighter than his opponents. Within 2 years Holy was the undisputed HW champion & 18 years later he arguably beat Valuev to become HW champion for the 5th time.

Holy has beaten more lineal HW champions than anyone, he's fought more than 20 world champions during his 25 year career & is the only man to have won 4 HW world titles.

Pac is great but he doesn't have a better resume than Holyfield.

 

:deal

I could not have said it better.

 

Pacquiao. His record is freakish. He won his first world title at flyweight...

 

Holyfield's resume is incredibly solid ,his body of work is remarkable !

 

Get out of here with this ****, it's boring!

You've pulled those list of names at the bottom of your page, either from a previous thread on here, or from another website.

Either way, at least half of those fighters weren't deserving in anyway.

Whoever's made it up is a complete idiot!

Since when Roy at 168 for 4 years?? Ha!

This was on here about 4 months ago, and I shredded the list.

I went by each name and including all the relevant stats.

Originally, the list was meant to be deserving fighters who'd he'd missed at 168. So I don't know if you've missed the 168 bit off.

Let me give you just a few examples.

Roy fought at 168 from 94-96.

In that period:

Nunn only had two fights there.

Barkley had NO fights there.

Ray Close only had ONE fight there, a loss to Eubank.

Eubank has admitted he didn't want Roy and was happy boxing on ITV and Sky.

Cordorba only had ONE fight at the weight

Van Horn only had ONE fight in 94, then RETIRED.

Roch lost to Eubank, fought 2 nobodies, drew with Sellier then moved to 175.


Six of the above guys clearly weren't deserving!

As for your ratings lists, you haven't allowed for any circumstances.

Such as,

Roy Snr held Roy back when he was young, and while Toney, Jackson, G-Man, Johnson, Nunn,and McCallum etc were all fighting each other at 160 in the early 90's, Roy was fighting nobodies at Pensacola fairgrounds.

Then by the time he'd won the vacant belt vs Hop, he was already too tight at the weight. After Hop he was boxing as high as 167, so he had to move up to 168. He didn't deliberately avoid all the best guys at 160, it was just unfortunate circumstances.

At 168 he didn't have a chance to unify, because Don King had the other main belt holders in Benn and Likes, and Roy's handlers - The Levin's, despised King, and didn't want to deal with him. After Roy had beaten Toney, there was nothing else to do, so he moved to 175.

Again, these stats that you've listed haven't allowed for CIRCUMSTANCES.