What age version of Ali could prime Tyson beat??

At what age do you think Tyson at his best could have defeated Ali??

Is it a question of age or of which condition Ali would have turned up for the fight? No doubt after seeing how deadly Mike was, Ali would have been in top condition. I personally think from 1975 onwards Mike would have taken him out, probably by stoppage

 

The pre 1964 and post 1975 incarnations of Ali.

 

Every incarnation from Liston I until just after the Thrilla in Manila.

 

I think comeback Ali would get beaten "fairly easily" by Tyson.
Ali without his footspeed would be at a big disadvantage, and Tyson was extremely resilient, it took Buster Douglas 11,5 rounds of domination and possesion of two very powerful hands to get Tyson down.

Ali does not have the offensive power Buster Douglas had and that would have put him in very big trouble against Tyson combined with his legs that were "gone" it could become a fight like Holmes-Tyson

 

I doubt Mike Tyson could have taken all the punishment your idol took in the FOTC, Ali hit Frazier with everything barring the kitchen sink.

 

Good for Ali, but Tyson took the bathtubs thrown by Ruddock

 

Anything post exile. I don't think Ali, by then, had the legs or power to beat Tyson.

Tyson would be live against any version though.

 

He took the odd hard shot, nothing like the constant drubbing Frazier took

 

^disagree. I would rather do 15 rounds of Ali's shots than 12 of Ruddock's. Two times in 3 or 4 months makes it that much worse.

 

Ali hit sharp but not that hard.

Ali's good offense was mainly because that jab hurt and tended to cut and bruise any opponents he faced, even the ones that weren't known as bleeders

But his KO power was way below Ruddock or Bruno or Douglas for that matter.
Ali would need his mobility, he didn't have that in his comeback

 

No doubt ruddock hits harder, but how many clean shots did he really land on mike? I bets its not even a quarter of what ali did.

 

I have always thought that the mobile style of Ali's 'prime' would have played right into the strengths of Tyson. With his hand and footspeed it would be very hard to stay away from Tyson, and his whole game was based on slipping the jab and coming in behind it.
In other words I wouldn't bet on any version of Ali to beat Tyson. I think the version of Ali that fought the first and third Frazier fights would have the best chance, if he was lucky enough to get a referee that would let him break the rules and frustrate Tyson into clinching when he got close instead of letting his hands go on the way in.

 

Believe me he hit plenty hard enough, if holyfield could hurt and finish tyson there's no doubt ali could.

 

Quick tillis handled mike pretty well and he couldn't carry alis jockstrap

 

In losing a UD in Tyson's 19th fight; he became a much better fighter later on.