What age version of Ali could prime Tyson beat??

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  1. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Tyson by then was already declined a lot and his chin got surely worse too.

    Also Ali didn't have the same ramrod head as Holy...butt
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was no headbutt what holyfield finished tyson with, I very much doubt is chin had declined at all by then
     
  3. tezel8764

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    LOL Tyson was just as bad as Holyfield, he was just repaying the favour.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson's tricks were the elbow and the good old arm breaker
     
  5. DrBanzai

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    Prime Tyson could probably beat the version of Ali post 1995
     
  6. BoxingFanPhil

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    Superb.

    Pre layoff Ali was too quick and could take Tyson way past seven rounds - and the longer fight went on the tougher it would get for Mike. I just see Ali staying away, making Mike waste shots, stinging him with the jab and his longer reach. As the rounds go on I see Ali planting his feet a bit more and using the straight right hand, buckling Tyson with combinations. It's a knock out about eight or nine rounds. If Tyson couldn't find Ali properly in the opening rounds he's screwed, he really is.

    Post layoff Ali had a better chin, was a little heavier, and just that bit more robust. What makes this fight interesting is the reverse dynamic with Joe Frasier - I expect Tyson to fly out of the traps and then wear down, where as Joe was slow out of the gate but just got more and more intense. Basically I see Ali tying Tyson up, riding him out, a bit of dancing if not as much (clearly) and again taking the upper hand as the fight goes on. Again, I see Ali knocking out Tyson with a well executed combination in the later rounds.
     
  7. NoNeck

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    How many lopsided decisions did Tyson win against Ali impersonators? It's a myth that he couldn't go rounds.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    Remind me why Tyson would take as many shots as Frazier in the first place?
     
  9. Wass1985

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    Because ali was was one the fastest punchers of all time
     
  10. NoNeck

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    It's funny you say that, because I was thinking Ali would take as many shots as Bonecrusher Smith because Tyson was one of the fastest punchers of all time.
     
  11. Wass1985

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    Funny how bonecrusher didn't seem too hurt by one of the fastest punchers of all time. Infact if old boneclutcher had some balls he might have caused an early upset!
     
  12. dyna

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    Funny how Ali seemed very hurt by some British anorexic. Infact if the ref saw Dundee was using smelling salts for Ali it might have caused an upset DQ win.

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    Goes both ways, wanker
     
  13. Wass1985

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    Ali never ever got knocked out in his career the same cannot be said of tinkerbell tyson! ****
     
  14. BoxingFanPhil

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    Check out Tyson's docu-film - one of the first things he puts on the table is the fact that he could go rounds and wasn't the same fighter after seven. He said he had a breathing problem, so he had to develop a style of starting fast and getting people out.

    If he thinks it isn't a myth, it probably isn't.
     
  15. xRedx

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    Ali is a confirmed PED cheat who used PEDs (smelling salts) when he was about to get knocked out by Cooper.

    Tyson would KO him in the first round.