Andre Ward at P4P Number 2 in Lists! NEEDS to STOP! Agreed?

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  1. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. paloalto00

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    There's no denying he has skill, but he hasn't beat anyone of caliber to warrant such a high ranking
     
  3. Imperial1

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    Agreed he should be # 1
     
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    I Don't like ward much but recognize he's cleaned out his division & applaud him for that.He didn't put a p4p fighter to sleep Like Sergio & JMM though.Don't mind people arguing he's top 4 or even 3 but he's not better than either or have better resume.
     
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    How's he expected to beat anyone at 154, when every time someone brings up him fighting Martinez or GGG or Trout or even Canelo at 154, his whole fanbase on ESB goes: not fair, double standards, the #1 ranked 2x SWW champ is too small
     
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    If he's not number 2 than he's number 1.
     
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    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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    this right here..

    **** outta here, Doc
     
  8. Doc

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    just an opinion.

    P4P is not official its opinion.

    75% Believe he is top 3... so I can't really argue since i have an unfavorable opinion in this matter. I just don't see it sorry.
     
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    This is my order, to place Ward 2nd is completely disregarding any movements in weight, however he is the current second most dominating fighter.
     
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  11. rusak

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    Ward might well be the P4P #1 right now.
     
  12. shoulderroll

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    Ward is number one.
     
  13. acie2g

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    I think that has more to do with people bitching saying if he doesn't fight a middle weight he's ducking, the only reason i feel a Mayweather-Martinez bout is a 50/50 fight is because Martinez is a middle weight. I think the double standard thing people cry about has to do with this. You got guys like pacquiao who consistently fights guys coming off of loses as well as bringing fighters up, martinez who is one of my favorite fighters is ruling over a mediocre MW division , p4p guys like Bradley fighting unknowns who are unranked ect.. yet if you suggest they fight a harder challenge people get up in arms. As far as I know the list of 5 division champs is less than 10.
    ex. Pacquiao-Rios=great fight Martinez-Murry,Barker,Macklin=great fights Alvarez-Lopez=decent fight yet Mayweather=Guerrero/Alexander/Garcia/Mathysse are **** fights.
    Not saying I fall into that category I try to look at thing and evaluate them based on the circumstances, but if you really look at the p4p list 2-5 you have Ward ruling SMW fighting guys who are overmatched you have Martinez the MW king fighting guys who are over matched you have Marquez who outside of Beating Pacquiao imo 3/4 times his resume is thin then you have Donaire who is beating highly rated guys through 3/4 division yet gets shitted on.
    You have guys like Alvarez who is fighting his first legit comp in 43 fights and Mayweather gets flack for fighting guys as accomplished or more then all the fighters these others are facing what Legit MW has GGG been in with. Mayweather isn't doing anything different from guys like Ward/Martinez fighting/beating guys in your division that your favored to beat look at 140-160 the only one out the bunch that is consistently fighting champs/guys coming off big wins is Mayweather we finally have a 140 tourney but look at Garcia,mathysse,rios,peterson,judah,trout,Alvarez even Martinez all of them have one maybe two good wins on there entire resume. my p4p list currently is
    1.Mayweather




    2.Donarie
    3. Ward



    4.Marquez
    5.Martinez
     
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    1 Mayweather
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    Number 2!