Rank these fighters in terms of p4p greatness.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Post the order in which you would put these five great p4p fighters:


    Roy Jones
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Harry Greb
    Sam Langford
    Bob Fitzsimmons
     
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  2. Capaedia

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    Robinson
    Greb
    Langford
    Fitz
    Jones
     
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  3. ripcity

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    1.Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Roy Jones
    3. Harry Greb/Sam Langford
    4. Bob Fitzsimmons
     
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  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fighter with the most available footage is in last place by a fair margin, if that's what the point of your thread was.
     
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  5. Theron

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    Robinson
    Greb
    Langford
    Fitz
    Jones
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    In terms of skill level I'd say:

    Robinson
    Jones
    Langford
    Greb
    Fitzsimmons

    Hard rating Greb cos you have to go off write ups and film of those he beat.
     
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  7. uberstar

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    Like in terms of accomplishments?

    Robinson
    Greb
    Langford
    Fitz
    Roy Jones

    H2H Ability:

    Jones
    Robinson
    Langford
    Fitz
    Greb
     
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  8. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Harry Greb
    2. Sugar Ray Robinson
    3. Sam Langford
    4. Bob Fitzsimmons









    - Roy Jones Jr.
     
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  9. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You overrate Roy´s h2h ability.

    You underrate Roy Jones Jr as a fighter.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    You like to bust chops.
     
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  11. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    Langford
    Robinson
    Jones
    Greb
    Fitz
     
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  12. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's amazing on film, Vic. But there's no way in hell Jones Jr. is even slightly underrated when bundled in with those guys.
     
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  13. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This
     
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  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    I can´t see Roy as better than those guys too.....but in your post you seem to say that there is a big difference like if it was a different class, I certainly disagree with that, IMO the differences between the ATGs are small any of them, they exist but they are small.
     
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  15. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well it depends on what exactly you're asking.

    Legitimate pound-for-pound proficiency: Jones beating Ruiz was great but it's **** compared to Fitzsimmons weighing 167lbs and actually defeated the man at heavyweight, Langford beating ATG's from Lightweight to heavyweight and everything in between, Greb cleaning out 3 weight divisions, Robinson reigning over 2 weight classes and so on and so forth.

    Jones, not in their class.

    Resumes and who these men actually beat: I won't even get into this one. Jones, not in their class.

    H2H ability and skills: Jones is about 2nd or 3rd, fighting Langford for 2nd place.

    Here, and only here, is Jones Jr. in the same "class."


    When it comes down to it -- "greatness" depends on who you actually beat. That holds the most stock. And Jones just doesn't compare.
     
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