The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stricter testing wasn't compulsory, it was just on Floyd's say so.

    Like JohnnyDrama says, the urine tests were more than enough.

    If you look at all the cut off dates logically, Manny couldn't have benefitted by using for only a few weeks. He said he was happy to be tested straight after the fight. So he couldn't have taken anything the last week.

    So his only break would have been after the random testing, until the penultimate week of training. That window of opportunity would have been like 2 weeks max. So how could he benefit taking something for a maximum of 2 weeks out of 8/9?

    It's ridiculous!

    In the end, all the test were agreed to anyway, and it still wasn't enough.

    Floyd never wanted the fight.
     
  2. GoldSugar

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    of course pacquiao couldve blood doped within a week of the fight to his benefit. you dont seem well versed in the mechanics of the doping world so I think we should leave this be for now
     
  3. Loudon

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    Hey man, I'm no expert on doping, and I'll be the 1st to admit that. That's why I enjoy reading JohnnyDrama's comments.

    I finally got around to watching Lance's interview with Oprah last week, and I couldn't believe it.

    Hiding things in coke cans etc.

    Lance said he used to dope outside of race hours, and he was never tested then. That's why he was always clean at the actual races.

    So please educate me, on how you think Manny could have done it, and how it would have benefited him?

    Wouldn't the urine test prove he wasn't taking anything?

    What about the test after the fight?

    If he blood doped in the last week, wouldn't it show up on the test?

    Remember though, all the testing was agreed to in the end.

    Thanks.
     
  4. GoldSugar

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    nevada doesn't administer any CIR testing. really all the nevada tests do are detect for elevated levels of the ratio and rarely is that even detected lets not forget mosley was using balco for fight week againt delahoya and nothing showed up in the post fight tests either.

    the drugs and masking agents are much more ahead of testing procedures at the commission levels. which is why the usada was going to be brought in, but pac ran from them
     
  5. Sweet Jones

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    This would explain some of the flawed logic of your posts.
     
  6. LikeFatherNSon

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    So how is Pacquiao going about it?
     
  7. Loudon

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    Did Manny not agree to everything in the end?
     
  8. LikeFatherNSon

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    In the end = years later
     
  9. GoldSugar

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    no, he wanted 50/50 which he didnt deserve nemore, even though he said hed take less
     
  10. Loudon

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    I'll be interested to see Johnny's response to what you've said.

    What flawed logic?

    I've asked you questions, and I don't try and speak on a subject that I don't know anything about.

    I stand by everything I've said in this thread.

    Floyd Snr accused Manny of taking things with NO proof.

    He then went to court, and had to back down and apologise.

    Floyd never requested that any of his other opponents should be tested in this way.

    Not until AFTER his big mouth Dad made those accusations.

    NONE of Manny's opponents want Manny to be tested in the same way.

    After Manny agreed to the tests, it was then the percentage.

    First he could have 50/50, then he couldn't, then Floyd wanted ALL of the PPV money.

    All of the above is factual.

    Anyone who can't see that Floyd never wanted this fight, needs to seek urgent medical attention.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Yes, but there were valid reasons why he didn't agree to it at first, that's obvious.

    In the end it still wasn't enough.

    The fight was still there to be made right until Marquez knocked him out.

    I agree that of course Floyd should have had the bigger share.

    But if your serious about a fight, you don't offer someone $40M with NO SHARE of the PPV, in what would have been the BIGGEST grossing fight of all time, grossing anything between $200-300m.
     
  12. GoldSugar

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    i know you dont believe top rank's reasons for not agreeing to testing were valid :rofl :rofl
     
  13. Loudon

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    Floyd originally said he could have 50-50, then Manny asked for a guarantee, and then it was no longer on the table.

    Last year Manny agreed to everything, and said he was happy with 45-55, and Floyd could have top billing etc.

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...=oMJtmBIDjXFNIkxQ0saVjQ&bvm=bv.44990110,d.bGE
     
  14. LikeFatherNSon

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    Either way, took years. He didn't agree **insert excuse here**
     
  15. GoldSugar

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    and in that same moment pac's boss was no longer interested in the fight and extended his contract with pacquiao
     
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