Why Is Marquez Prone to Knockdowns while manny isn't?...

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  1. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    Marquez is textbook. manny is crossing his feet every other second.

    Why is it Marquez is easy to knockdown while manny is quite difficult to knockdown?:think:huh
     
  2. ejdge

    ejdge Member Full Member

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    Styles and athleticism. Pacquiao has a very unorthodox style and has ridiculous balance despite having terrible "textbook" footwork. Marquez likes to bang and has ended up paying for it in numerous fights... though he recoups/learns very well.

    IMO Pacquiao gets away with a lot of things most fighters can't. This will only get worse with age.
     
  3. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny darts in and out, Marquez stays right in your face and uses a lot of subtle movements to minimize the input while maximizing output.
    He sets up perfect angles, but its a high risk strategy and it will get you tagged now and then.

    He also has more of a "cold chin" he usually gets dropped early but seems to be fine as the fight progresses.
     
  4. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    Pacquiao's not that hard to knock down.


    Here he is being knocked down/nearly out/cross eyed by a jab.

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    Not hating on the little man, but facts are facts. Under the right circumstances, anyone can be badly hurt, by any punch. He's been in with some hard hitters, but when you're smaller and have a huge speed advantage against slower opponents, you aren't getting hit that much.
     
  5. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao is the superior athlete. The knockdowns are no indication of Marquez's chin however.
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    pac is mobile, athletic. jmm is old, smarter fighter, more laid back, a thinking fighter. u could throw a punch at pac, he either moves to the side, moves away or dodges it by ducking. marquez is more planted on his feet. he'll duck if u throw shots at his head by bending at his waist. manny just made a textbook mistake. never paw your jab at an opponent, esp as dangerous as jmm
     
  7. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe Pac gets away with more due to his speed. Most opponents aren't able to hit him with the shot that will put him down, although he has shown the ability to soak up a punch while off balance.
     
  8. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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    Manny is more athletically gifted..
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Marquez has to take more risks to bait an opponent for counters and isn't as fast on his feet, so he has to lean in with his upper body and sometimes oblige fighters on the inside before moving side to side on them. Also, Marquez can lead well, but at times he leaves his feet behind, Manny always steps into his punches and brings them with him as he darts forward into a combination.
     
  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao has, or had, a great chin.
     
  11. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Um chin maybe? What do you think. Marquez has always been vulnerable to knockdowns, but he's incredibly hard to finish.

    Pac has or had a rock solid chin and hes just extremely hard to put down because of that.



    ....:patsch Ok when did this happen? Have you seen Pac knocked down by a punch like that since then? He's taken way bigger blows that have blindsided him or he's literally run into and stayed steady on his feet. Fighters punch resistance can improve with time and conditioning.

    Pacquiao doesnt get hit that much??? :blood:blood :patsch
     
  12. War-Lord

    War-Lord Active Member Full Member

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    And Roy Jones
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Reinforcing what I posted before, you're bound to get caught when trying to pull moves like this:

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    (Sorry for the blur but I'm not ****ing Tezel)

    Also Pac doesn't cross his feet that much.