Why Are There No Good Heavyweight Inside Fighters Anymore?

He asked permission to fight Pianeta rather then Povetkin. He dodged Chisora no two ways about it.
Tyson Fury in Wlads own words "He didn't show me anything against Johnson that should make me give him a title shot"


I'm pretty sure people here said you were "Evolution" from Duggersranch forum?? But you just denied this how come?

 

You said this in another thread
"This is a pretty poor era in heavyweight history"

Why the sudden change

 

Absolute rubbish and the amount of people who think that is worrying.

 

Um, because I'm not? I've never even heard of Duggersranch forum, friend. I don't rightly know what you are talking about?

And Tyson Fury has achieved, what, exactly, that makes him a front-runner for a title shot? He's booked.

Fail to see how Chisora was dodged.

Povetkin has turned down a fight with Wlad on separate occasions. In 2008, he said he was hurt. In 2010, he said he wasn't ready to fight him. If Wlad wants to take Povetkin on in the summer, let him. He tried to make that fight happen twice already.

 

It is, historically.

That doesn't mean the fighters suck and the champion does too. It's also not quite as thin as it was in 2010, you gotta admit. The 2010 heavyweights were cleaned out, we've had some guys really rise up since then and add some excitement.

A weak era doesn't mean bad fighters or a bad champion. It means its a poor era. It's boring. It's not a ton of fun. And in 2009-2010, it was BAD. There was nobody left. We've got credible up and comers now. Peaks and valleys. This new era(2011-2019) might be a great deal better than the last.

 

Isnt this you

http://dugger-s-ranch.2299399.n4.na...nox-Lewis-David-Tua-and-others-td4090601.html

Posts in the same style as you and has from what I've read the same stories

 

Somebody like Joe Louis or Rocky Marciano, would usualy offer the title shot to the most highly ranked contender that they had not already beaten uncontrovertialy.

They obviously did not have a brother in the same division, who they could not fight, who kept knocking key contenders down the rankings. I also do not claim to fully understand the politics behind why some of these fights were not made.

Under convention Wlad should offer a title shot to Povetkin first, and if he dosn't accept it he should offer it to Pulev.

If neither of those matches are possible then it gets complicated. Admek, Helinius, Boytsov and Fury would be in the frame. Even somebody like Joe Louis would likley pick the name from that list that would draw the biggest home town gate, since their ranking would not sell the fight by itself.

 

Putting -Pancaked after your description of Brock would mean he was none of those things, which he wasn't.

 

He's beaten Chisora and Johnson much much more then Pianeta.

Chisora is the worst style Wlad can fight. The fight was set until Wlad changed his mind.

He still STEPPED aside his mandatory. fight the next best not Pianeta like Janitor said

 

Nope, not me. Never knew that forum existed.

Could have been any number of other guys, though. Wouldn't surprise me if there are other guys out there with similar experiences.

I don't know any AJ through the internet, though, and I've never given my name out to anybody who emailed me.

 

The Klitschko's tend to follow the buck. The Haye fight got made when it was nice and juicy.

 

So earlier its "Who this and that" and now its "they chase the buck"

Be consistent

 

How are they inconsistent? The K-Bros make fights when the money is right. They've never shown any fear, or dodged any challenger.

Again, who haven't they fought when it's been available?

He put off Povetkin to take another fight, preferring to fight Sasha in the summer. After Sasha cut and run twice, I don't blame him for wanting to do something else. He'll fight Povetkin when he needs to, or when it makes cents.

You can chase the buck like Mayweather, or you can chase the buck by pursue the hottest fights you can. In the heavyweight division, that usually means you are fighting some pretty hot shot guys. Not a whole lot of lower tier heavyweights at this weight sell tickets, though, Wladimir did great numbers with Mormeck.

 

Thought you retired?...Using your supposed claims to get ahead in debate's on here...You got no respect from me.

 

It goes back and forth.

I don't need respect from you. I have no respect FOR you. Treat me with some, and we could probably learn from each other.