I've been following Rigondeaux for over 10 years now, he is exactly the same fighter. He hasn't transitioned to anything, he was a masterful boxer in the 'sport' and that didn't change once he reached the 'hype/paid' game.
And..? Golovkin picked Rigo. Mayweather doesn't respect the amateur game since he felt he got 'robbed' in 96. I had it 50/50 before this fight leaning towards Rigo, but I said if Rigo can take Donaire's punches then I'd pick Rigo everyday. Boxing skills are boxing skills, regardless if it's for a gold medal/your country or a paycheck.
He threw much more as an am and was somewhat aggressive, either way it was obvious he was going really stand out; he's by no means another Olympian he's cut from a different cloth
You say that now. Wait until you haven't just seen Rigo embarrass a p4p fighter. Wait until Lomachenko does the same thing to any supposed top 'professional', battering them from all ranges and not just from the outside.
Well you have to, you only have 3-4 rounds. His style is exactly same and he moves exactly the same. He is and was a defensive back foot counter puncher. I'm not saying rigondeaux isn't/wasn't exceptional, my point is that anybody who understands boxing knows that amateur and pro boxing aren't that different. Rigo certainly didn't gain those skills to dominate Donaire in 11 pro fights against inferior competition than he faced in the olympics. Rigo himself was criticised by the fans on here for talking about his amateur achievements, saying that they meant nothing and it may as well be a different sport. Also criticised his training methods etc.
Yeah he really needed somebody who was getting paid for providing misinformation and placebos. If only Donaire took his ZMA
To be fair it's hard to predict Rigondeaux (but that's what makes him great, he FINDS a way to win, despite being a big underdog). He does things a pro shouldn't do - keeps his hands low, is too flat footed at times, and doesn't mix up his punches. This is a recipe for disaster. I think most people including myself overlook is his instinct. He knows exactly when and where to throw, he knows how to place his head in a safe position and appears to time his opponent very well. But yeah, point well made. I hope more fans show more respect for a guy with a great amateur background - but more importantly you have to really focus on what he does in the ring. Even with only a few pro fights you can tell Rigo has the power, speed, and ring intelligence. I don't see the same things in Zou Shiming although I think Arum will set him up nicely to win a title someday.
We'll agree to disagree, you're right it's not that different BUT amateur success doesn't necessarily translate to pros. Sadam Ali, Tillman, luis yanez, etc.
You see more guys in the amateur utilizing a classic high guard. It's basic and one of the first things taught. Keeping hands low especially the lead isn't a liability for advanced fighters. Hopkins and Mayweather do it, and they're the best defensive guys. Rigo isn't flat footed. He's economic. If he was flat footed, he wouldn't be able to do all those crazy pivots.
Well yes there are too many variables involved and there are always going to be exceptions, but a talented amateur boxer is going to be an equally talented pro 9 out of 10 times. An untalented amateur is less likely to be a talented pro. They are the same sport. An atg amateur like Rigondeaux or Lomachenko is as close to a certainty in the pro game as you can get. Lomachenko will only be 25 when he turns pro this year as well, he has more time to achieve than Rigo.
He is economical because he is flat footed. Being 'on your toes' is one of the stupid things US trainers try to put into their fighters. Bouncing around is okay if you're just trying to poke your opponent and get out of range quickly, but the top amateurs/pros move in and out of range while having their feet planted. It's a skill and the top Ukrainian/Cuban/Russian amateurs do it well. US boxing is based on a misunderstanding of the sport on the amateur level. It's good footwork that should be emphasised, not 'staying on your toes'. You're just raising your COG and decreasing the torque generated through your hips/ankle/knee joint by your quads/glutes/hammies. If you're on your toes you're limiting what your large muscle can generate into the ground, you're just using your calf muscles for something they're not very good at (generating power).
what country are you from? You appear obsessed with the US. When flat footed is thrown around I think of guys with limited mobility. Rigo is definitely mobile.