Rigondeaux knocks Mares out

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guillermo Rigondeaux doesn't get hit by two punches in a row. The reason I picked Donaire to win however is because he doesn't need two shots to win by knockout as he has the abilities to time the counter with a shock left overhand, something I expected to bring him the victory at some point. It only got Nonito a knockdown and a couple of clean blows, but style-wise his skilled nuclear punching is still the way to bring the fight somewhere else than skills: the chin department.

    Good news: Rigondeaux passed that with flying colors, and Mares does not possess anywhere near that single punch danger, plus he's far easier to hit leaving many opportunities for the Cuban. The most awesome thing of Rigo's performance was the hard comeback shots he answered Donaire's big moments, and that's where Nonito needed his big frame, excellent chin and quick defensive recovery, cause those were hard counters.

    In a sense Rigo is Abner's style kryptonite like Donaire was his, and if you hit a chin often enough it will crack. Mares leaves himself open often enough.
     
  2. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why does every top fighter gets "hype" up in here after a good win? Why???
     
  3. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now that Rigo beat Donaire he knocks Mares, Moreno ect..
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    mares has only ever been down once in his career against the huge punching darchinyan.

    i imagine their fight would like a mini version of Pea vs Chavez.

    More likely is rigo will look to face the new ibf guy, quigg and Frampton he isn't exactly big at the weight and he probably has maybe 4 years at the top. I see him enjoying a decent reign over the division.
     
  5. stevebhoy87

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    Style wise it's the fight I think that provides Rigondeaux his most challenge around his weight class. Mares would fight every second of every round, bringing non stop pressure and a lot of dirty tricks with it. He's not short of boxing skill either

    If anything going to throw Rigondeaux off his pure boxing game it's that. If predicting the fight, I do Rigondeaux would win, he has the power and accuracy to get to Mares when he's coming into range somewhat recklessly, but it's an interesting fight.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't think he knocks Mares out?

    He badly hurt Donaire in the 12th, and Nonito does a far better job at defending.
     
  7. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't see Quigg or Frampton being put anywhere near Rigondeaux in the near future TBH
     
  8. anj

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    VERY good post.
    Rigo will hit Mares with HUGE shots. Mares' chin will be the biggest thing to be tested. It will also reduce Mares' willingness to trade, allowing Rigo to have a substantial influence in the pace of the fight, not a good thing as Mares is going to need volume punching to really get to Rigo.
    I think you make a very big point in mentioning the power of Mares' punches - he doesn't have 1 punch KO power, nor is he a 'puncher' in general.

    But one good thing about Mares is that when he is fighting at close range with opponents, he is great at creating a distance so even if Rigo does hit him with huge counter punches, the effect will be dissipated.
    Also, Mares is actually really good on the outside as well.

    I think Rigo's skill level will be the deciding factor in this fight. 8-4 or (if I'm really underrating Mares) a 7-5 but rather obvious 7-5 victory for Rigo.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    He has 3 of the belts. Traditionally English fighters go the wbo mando route and that leads them to rigo.

    Maybe Frampton will get an ibf shot but I'm guessing quigg would jump at the chance to fight rigo.
     
  10. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neither of them are Allegedly fighters so the WBO is hardly a given as it would likely have been if they were.

    Quigg might take the fight, maybe, with Hatton not having a TV deal and less bargaining power they may risk it.

    As much as I'm a fan of Hearn as i am I don't think he will put Frampton anywhere near a ring with Rigondeaux. He will know Frampton won't win and will build him up another route, then maybe try and unify with Rigondeaux down the line. Frampton doing good business at the moment, and will get a shot at one of the other belts in time. Can't see them risking it
     
  11. AnthonyW

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    I think I seen on Twitter last night that they won't be rushing Quigg for Rigo.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    quigg is a cocky fighter and is dangerously close to being sidelined atm. He'll jump at the chance.

    As I said with Frampton he's being brought along differently and seems to be playing the alphabet game with his victories over molitor and kiko. I expect him to go for the ibf belt and then unify down the line hopefully.

    These 2 really believe they're the best though and if they get offered (both top ten) I imagine either will take the fight. It's a win-win situation.
     
  13. DrMo

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    Agree with all of this, Mares has the style & the tools to give Rigo a lot of trouble.

    I'd be betting on Mares tbh, he'll apply pressure & force Rigo to fight at a pace he's not comfortable with.

    I cant see anyone at 122lbs outboxing Rigo but if anyone can drag him into the trenches its Mares.
     
  14. BigBone

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    Oh but that's music to Rigondeaux's ears. You don't out-rough and out-tough a Cuban star cause one needs to tear through an absolutely loaded elite just to make the national team, it's like sparring the Pacquiaos every day while learning the craft, and doing in the manner that you earn the chance in competition.

    Sure this is the pros, but Rigo showed no signs of conditioning issues whatsoever, not a single heavy breath, the man's a machine. Of course a machine can be broken down, but since he only gets hit with single punches (cause your mouth is full with his counter upon the 2nd) Donaire had a far better chance since his first shot is a finisher unlike volume puncher Mares'.

    What would happen is exactly what occurred 30 seconds into yesterday's bout as Donaire jumped on Rigondeaux and tried to bring the fight to the trenches, only to get knocked back 5 feet on wobbly legs. He never brought the fight inside again.

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    Rigo loves a come forward brawler, the more you open up the more opportunities you give him, and I see Mares' regular intensity dropping as he's beaten to the punch again and again. And from then on, he gets drowned not Rigo. Maybe a quick in-out style and controlled boxing, but Abner is simply too defensively flawed to get away with overraching, and too Mexican at heart not to fight back when hurt. That'd lead to disastrous results, hell, Rigo even got the better of the exchange when HE was hurt.

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  15. Dedication

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    2003 Bantamweight gold medalist at Pan-American games in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
    Defeated Argenis Mendez (Dominican Republic) 17-2
    Defeated Alexander Espinoza (Venezuela) RSC 2
    Defeated Andrew Kooner (Canada) 22-2
    Defeated Abner Mares (Mexico) 17-7
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Rigondeaux

    RiGOD will beat him again