How did Rigo neutralize Donaire's offense?

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  1. |A|C|S|

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    I think it was just mostly head movement, Donaire likes to leap in with punches Rigo was always gonna step back or slide under them, Donaire didnt even attempt to throw the punches I always knew the fight would look like that, Donaire had trouble landing shots on Narvaez who just walked back with a guard, tbf Donaire did miss a few big hooks by inches
     
  2. younghov2k4

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    from what i remember...and i was drunk all day lol so hey. :lol::lol:

    1. speed was the surprising factor for Donaire, i dont think he was prepared for a much faster Rigondeaux then he/his team figured. Donaire took too long trying to outbox and he fell for too many feints.

    2. correct me if im wrong but Rigo caught Nonito with a great power shot in the very first round. that wouldve def kept Donaire at a careful pace along with the speed disadvantage.

    3. someone mentioned Rigo's footwork, he def did the right **** to stay away from Donaire's left hook until Nonito got desperate and caught him in the 10th.

    anyway thats my quick take.
     
  3. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    .By being slick running and occasionally punching and trading. And staying away! Donaire is not the type to beat Rigo.

    Someone like a tough Mexican with a good chin to rough him up will get to him. Really hard to press a counter puncher with some power.

    Like Rigo.He just waited and countered basically. Not much to it.
     
  4. Sweet-D-Willy

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    slapping his glove down..
     
  5. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't run.


    I think Donaire felt Rigo's power in the first minute of round 1 when there was an exchange and he was a bit more cautious than he may have been after that. Rigo's movement had him in knots and Rigo stuck to his gameplan of not leading: He won rounds in which he may only have thrown 10 punches by making Donaire miss and making him tentative to throw punches. Rigo kept it at range the whole fight, very rarely was Donaire in close or in mid-range to throw his hooks. He stepped back when Donaire came in to throw, moved laterally and countered. He moved away from Donaire's hook but kept his movement unpredicatable. He didn't commit to many punches or combos and leave himself vunerable to counter. All in all a defensive masterclass
     
  6. AnthonyW

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    How did Rigo neutralize Donaire's offense?

    First and foremost, he made him hesitant. This was through feinting of hand, foot and body, and also his stinging punches he would land with high accuracy. If you keep your opponent guessing when you are going to throw, they are too busy trying to think when you're going to throw rather than thinking about their own work and gameplan, which is why we seen long periods of Donaire not knowing what he was doing. My favourite round was actually in the middle rounds when Rigo barely threw a punch, landed about 5 or 6, and Donaire landed even less, Cubans are awesome at this. Rigo had planted the seed deep before this round, and it just kept growing, even to the point that your opponent knocks you down and ends up again hesitant to throw.

    Rigo took away the left hook pretty early on, circling to the left and ducking/bending low when pivoting to the right. With his lead hand he would throw his own, more accurate and faster right hook everytime Donaire looked to set up that shot. It was interesting that people said it will be Rigo's pawing jab that would set up the left hook perfectly, I didn't agree with this (although I did predict a Donaire win).

    It was this pawing right hand that negated Donaires jab, and also his left hook. There was a difference in the use of the right hand between him measuring Donaire up for the left hand and him keeping Donaire distracted. Rigo was holding the right hand out in front in an elevated position everytime Donaire was closing the distance. He would adopt a circular motion with his right hand which not only kept Donaire distracted, but would force Donaire to try block/parry it to try get his own left hook off. This would lead to a somewhat fencing duel between the left of Donaire and the right of Rigo as they fought for superior hand placement, just like what would happen with the feet. However, this isn't the only thing, this set up Rigo's right hook up perfectly. As Donaire would try to parry Rigo's right hand, Rigo had the superior hand positioning to get his own hook off faster, and shorter. Donaire would parry/tap it down then try to land the jab or hook, and Rigo would throw the shorter hook and get off low to the left, or pivot low to the right (it also set up the jab to the stomach to reset everything). I noticed he would also use his right arm as a trigger to get off his left hand, which in turn would also create doubt for Donaire.

    His footwork was virtually perfect, minimal, precise, and explosive. He would edge back with precision and bend at the waist to continue taking away Donaires left hand. I can't remember the last time a boxer had not only the opponent chasing shadows, but the referee finding it difficult to keep up.

    I'm going to rewatch it again later to see what else Rigo was doing. Can't remember anything off the top of my head that he did to nulify the right hand to the body, but it was late as you know.
     
  7. KillSomething

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    There was honestly too much. I'll be rewatching this fight probably 25 times r so and will post my findings. There will be many.

    Lets begin with:

    1. Move the opposite direction the other guy expected.
    2. Jab off the check hook to keep him from following.
    3. Disrupt offense by backing up or getting off first when Donaire telegraphed an attack.
    4. Draw the lead and counter it by feinting.
    5. Immediately came back with a harder shot every time he got hit.
     
  8. MAG1965

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    He was faster than Donaire and didn't give Donaire many chances to counter with that left hook. Calm cool and collected.
     
  9. markq

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    Apr 2013, nice alt *******
     
  10. techks

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    Few things I noticed about Rigo:

    -Kept Nonito tentative with feints and pivoting

    -Avoided being pressed against the ropes controlling the ring quite well allowing himself space to move around being pressured and planning escape routes

    -Put his hands in the right position to parry punches though most of his defense came from rolling punches opposed to blocking/parrying.

    -Did not fall into Donaire's plan to get reckless and exchange and recovered well from and good shot and the knockdown. Went back to work and continued his masterclass

    -Took away the left hook by rolling it and pivoting. His best counters usually came not too long after Nonito would throw a straight right or left hook.



    Rigo got a bit careless standing straight up then getting clocked but Donaire did push him illegally to the neck with his elbow tbf. It happens sometimes and Rigo did not let that rattle him. He is a special fighter but both are. Knew Donaire was skilled but his defense and patience for the most part impressed me too along with Rigo's ring control & defense.
     
  11. boxeo#1

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    Rigo took that counter left and came right back. Even though Nonito didn't fully commit to that punch it still impresses me that Rigo came right back with a beauty of a left.
    He even seemed a bit wobbled but recovered within tenths of a second.
     
  12. 4Tey

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    you've never boxed in your life. fact.
     
  13. Drew101

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    His right hook was on point, especially thrown as a counter. He threw it, and landed it a number of times after making Donaire miss with the jab or hook.
     
  14. Smokin' Joe

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  15. showbox

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    to the fans that are complaining about Rigo Not engaging... they dont know **** about Boxing...Rigo was fighting his fight It was up Donaire to get him uncomfortable and brawl it out!!!

    Thats like watching a Basketball ball game and blaming the Spurs for playing too Much Defense on the Heat holding them to 70 points & winning the game!! saying well if they wasn't playing the 2-3 zone Lebron would be able to drive the lane and play his game instead to making him settle for jump shots!!! no!!!! its up to the other team to adjust and give their best shot!!!