Prime Joe Calzaghe vs Prime Andre Ward @ 168

You bring up Bute a lot, why?

Bute refused to enter the super 6, knowing he would lose. Once ward emerged victorious from the super 6, Bute DEMANDED he fight him. Ward told him to get in line and fought a MUCH better opponent in Dawson. Bute went on to get knocked the **** out by Ward's leftovers, then have a comeback fight against some shitter that he almost lost.

Bute is trash.

 

Bailey is a Mickey Mouse boxing fan.
He is completely unable to type up a breakdown of how Joe beats Ward.
All he has is useless boxrec stats.

 

god I know its sickening . . . verbal diarrhea! he spends so much time trying to prop up Joe and tear down everyone else that he lost touch with reality. Part of me thinks he is Calslappy himself

 

He certainly doesn't hesitate to write an essay that no one is going to read.

 

Allow me.

 

ward is so brilliant he has to make 175lb fighters come down to 168.

ward would land three punches a round trying to look pretty like hopkins, but would lose because calzaghe landed 150 more punches than him.

 

You're basically claiming Joe wins based off 2 rounds in the Froch fight where Ward couldn't throw properly due to busted hand.
We might not have even seen the best from Ward yet. There was huge improvements shown against Dawson.
Ward can do it all, box great on the inside and outside. Joe's workrate workrate would be negated by stepping into him and chopping him up in close.
Or else he can use the ring against him and and pick him off like Hop did at a higher tempo.
Hopkinks proved Joe was never elite to begin with.

 

I'm not sure what fight you are referring to. The Ward-Froch fight I watched had Ward in control from start to finish.

atsch

 

I've just been reading his comments, he's a comedy genius.

 

Calzaghe ducks obv

 

Hopkins proved Joe wasn't elite?

By getting out worked, and actually out maneuvered for the first time since the RJJ fight? :huh

Calzaghe was elite, there's really no debate about that.

 

Hopkins proved Calzaghe wasnt elite by losing to Calzaghe? :huhatsch

Completely bias. Ward was tired down the stretch. It was a close fight as seen by 2 of the 3 judges

Ward did not put a clinic on against Froch at all. Just rewatched.
Ward looked more composed than Froch, which gives a better impression of control, but try watching the fight without any commentary or sound, and you can see why the judges watched a close fight.
Ward was leaning and holding which isnt a clinic, like many would like to dream it was. Ward definately didnt close the show.

Rewatched and scored.


Round 1 . Even round
Round 2 . Ward
Round 3 . Even
Round 4 . Ward, full of holding and leaning
Round 5 . Froch, clinical finish to the round
Round 6 . Ward, close round
Round 7 . Ward, full of holding and leaning
Round 8 . Ward, full of holding and leaning
Round 9 . Froch, tough round to call
Round 10. Ward, tough round to call
Round 11. Froch, but Ward holding and leaning
Round 12. Froch

A close win to Ward but not a clinic,

A SMW clinic was Jones/Toney, Calzaghe/Lacy, Kessler/Andrade, etc

Ward seemed to be struggling at the end, as he did against Bika and Froch is an old SMW.

Based on what? who at SMW where Calzaghe fought, did he duck?