more overrated Donaire(2012) or Pacqusio (WW)

Doesn't really say much for boxing if you think Pacquiao and Donaire are overated.

 

The WW means just at welterweight, even Pacquiao fans can only claim 2 fjghts at welter against true welters and one of those was against a 39 year old, do you have information that states otherwise?

 

First I apologize for the length of the post, but believe me it is worth reading. I would post this in a new thread but for an unknown reason I am not allowed to post new threads even though I did nothing wrong and and I can't get the moderator to respond to my inquires.
This post is about blatant plagiarism by the writer from Boixngnews24 Allen Fox. I wrote a comment on 1 of his articles entitled, "Broner vs Malignaggi to be televised by Showtime on June 22nd", writen by Allen Fox on 03/18/13. I wrote a comment (which you can scroll down and read yourself),and then on the same day Allen Fox wrote another article entitled, "De La Hoya: Doesn't HBO know Golden Boy is stacked with Talent"
Allen Fox lifted the entire premise, theme, summary, from my comment I made under the Broner vs Malignaggi article. He even stole from my comment, word for word. I wrote the editor, but never received a response. Then I noticed my comment was erased from the Broner vs Mal. article and Allen Fox's article was not changed at all. Instead of an apology and having Fox rewrite his article, or give me credit the editor and Allen Fox instead decided to just erase my comment. Here is the email I sent them:

joseph pacheco <josjbXXX@XXXXXXX>

Mar 19

to editor
This is in regards to 2 articles posted on 03/18/13. The 1st titled Broner vs. Malignaggi to be televised by Showtime on June 22nd and the 2nd titled De La Hoya: Doesn't HBO know Golden Boy is stacked with Talent? both written by Allen Fox. I posted a comment on the 1st article. The post/comment is listed below for you to read along with the questioned section of article 2 written by Allen Fox. My issue is the 2nd article has parts in it that seem extremely similar to the post/comment I made in the 1st article. I have highlighted the section in my post/comment below. It seems like Allen Fox used my post/comment almost word for word in his article. Also, the whole summary and idea of the 2nd article seems lifted from my comment. It seems as if Allen Fox used the premise, idea, and substance of my post/comment for his article. Examples are rife such as the mention of Bob Arum's age and firing Ken Hershman just to name a few. Now, he wrote each article on the same day and I believe he read my comment and plagiarised it and passed it own as his own work. I am saying he did this intentionally, and I am angry about it. If your writer, Allen Fox, wants to use my words and ideas for his articles I am a bit flattered by it, but I do want him to credit me for it by using the standard journalistic practices, such as a footnote or quote me in his article. For example," a comment listed by one of our readers, Joe......... I do hope you read the 2nd article and compare it to my post/comment and make your own judgement on the issue. Since you are the editor I am sure you will be fair and I am also sure you do not tolerate plagiarism even if it is done unintentionally. I do hope you respond to my email as quickly as possible.

Thank You,
Joe Pacheco

Questioned section of Article written by Allen Fox: De La Hoya: doesn't HBO Know Golden Boy is stacked with talent?

"What HBO seems to be forgetting is that Top Rank, which will be supplying most of their talent for their fights, is headed by an 81-year-old CEO in Bob Arum. He’s not going to be around for too much longer, and who knows how well the promotional company will do once Arum is gone."

joe (my comment posted on boxingnews24)

What a stupid and horrible move by HBO. Golden Boy has the deepest roster of fighters and to just abandon making fights with them is just plain stupid. Instead HBO wants a relationship with Top Rank who not only has a much thinner roster of fighters, but it has an aging 81 yr old man at its head who will not be in the business much longer. This a bad strategic business decision by HBO which comes down to the question of why on earth did HBO hire Ken Hershman in the first place?

Ever since Ken Hershman was hired HBO, boxing has gone downhill. He needs to be replaced immediately. I never understood why they hired him in the 1st place. His record at Showtime was one of limited growth and continued status quo. He did not bring any great innovation or changes to Showtime during his tenure there and Showtime Boxing never grew, its just remained there in a sort of suspended animation. When he was at Showtime, Showtime boxing never could compete with HBO Boxing, and they constantly put on poor fights. But once Hershman left and Showtime hired a new Sports director they have leaped past HBO putting on good fights all year long. Their viewership has gone up and now they have Mayweather. This compared to HBO, since Hershman’s hiring, poor match-ups, bad deals, losing Mayweather, and now refusing to deal with Golden Boy fighters. Hershman has now backed HBO into a corner. Losing Mayweather and now Broner, whom they had a lot invested in already. I see them courting Andre Ward, but Ward does not bring in big numbers and is not a pay per view attraction, and not too exciting to watch either. All the great fights at 168 have already been done by Ward and done on Showtime. Hershman has been a complete and absolute failure who needs to be fired before he ruins HBO Boxing for the next decade

 

Yes. But whats the point.

Continue trolling....

 

Pathetic, because I give my point of view it's trolling? Come on if I'm lying call me on it, maybe you want to bring up Oscar, Bradley or JMM, i don't know but I bet you have no valid point.

 

Getting sick and tired of this Manny Pacquiao was overrated bull****. Use your memory or go to boxrec and look at his resume. In the majority of his big fights all of his opponents were giving good chances of winning. If there were catchweights then both fighters agreed to the catchweight, no one enters a contract to fight at a weight that they think they will lose at. Of his recent losses, everyone knows he beat Bradley, and the Marquez fight was amazing because of both fighters, Manny was putting a beating on Marquez until he landed that shot, it could have easily gone the other way.

No one else in boxing has a resume anyway near the quality of Pacquiao's over last 7 years, you could even just say his ww run. It's not the fact that he won the fights, its the fact that he dominated almost every round of every fight.

All of these people saying he is overrated would have a completely different view if he was American/Black/Mexican.

 

*******, it's not a welterweight fight unless it's at 147 dumb ****, his resume is garbage since Oscar, you don't know what you are talking about you even give him credit for losses.

 

You're technically wrong, and too much of a dip**** to realize it.

 

Yeah I know *******s like to say any weight within the weight limit is legitimate, trust me I've heard all your bigoted bull****. Can Mayweather fight Canelo at 148 because to me that would be pretty stupid but that's what your hero did.

 

You're obviously some noob who latched on to Mayweather in the past few years.

 

Ha even when I troll I know more than you, you give Pacquiao a pass cause of the color of his skin, I love calling you double standard having pieces of shits out, you sold your soul to cheer Pacquiao, I bet you think Alvarado is a good fight don't you scum?

 

lol at all of this.

The sad reality is that you're not trolling, it's just that being a simpleton comes naturally for you.

 

It's been covered before but some people are quite dense (or simpletons as stated by poster above) so here we go:

Alvarado is 3rd choice after Marquez and Bradley, Pacquiao wants Marquez first, then Bradley - Alvarado is if all else fails.

Pacquiao has come off a KO which finishes some fighters. If he were to take on Alvarado, no one here knows how he'd react to a big shot. In fact many think his chin is now gone, it's a crap fight on paper a year ago, now any top 140/147 fighter against Pacquiao is an unknown. In spite all this, Alvarado is 3RD CHOICE - just to give an example, Guerrero is Mayweather's first choice - that's just to help you understand the difference. Hope it helped - feel free to re-read to make sure you get it

- Taking into account the ridiculous politics in boxing between promoters and TV networks, can you let us know who you think Pacquiao's 3rd choice should be within the Top Rank stable if Alvarado is such a joke fight as 3rd choice?

 

It is a welterweight fight if it is at 140.25 pounds. If you disagreed with that, than I'd ask you if it was a junior welterweight fight, and BOOM! mind blown...

If it's a CW and not at the full division limit than it can be ridiculed or praised for whatever reasons for however each person personally feels about catchweights; and I have my own opinion in regards to them. But it is a WW fight. The Cotto CW fight, the JMM III CW fight; both were welterweight fights. As was Margarito a junior middleweight fight.

Opinions are opinions, some right some wrong. Facts are facts, though, even if they mislead...

 

I could break his career down off the top of my head and you would lie