Jose Luis Ramirez Resume vs Chavez

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  1. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jose Luis Ramirez record is very similar to Chavez's numerically 102-9 & 107-6

    I don't really know much about Ramirez since I didn't look into his career, but what are his best victories and how do they stack up against Chavez's record?
     
  2. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez is better in terms of wins but Ramirez fought the far better fighters.
     
  3. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who has Ramirez fought and is his record padded?
     
  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know what you mean by padded but Ramirez fought Olivares, Arguello (and probably won that fight), Mancini,.Camacho, Rosario, Chavez, and Whitaker. He was a solid professional for quite some time.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    JLR was never on Chavez' level as a fighter.His record is stacked with top names of the era though and he was a solid contender for years.

    I'd compare him more to an 80s Jose Luis Castillo, but with a bigger punch.
     
  6. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Padded means that he fought weak competition in order to build up his record of victories.
     
  7. LittleRed

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    I like the comparison. Both called by three names, both won the lightweight title more than once. I guess that makes the Arguello fight comparable to the first Mayweather fight fifer Castillo.
     
  8. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm glad to see people recall what a close and difficult fight Ramirez gave Arguello. It's often overlooked that JLR was thought unlucky to lose that fight at the time, and giving Alexis such hell is arguably the shining moment of his career. Many thought Ramirez deserved the win in his first fight with Rosario, so it just goes to show that most top fighters usually benefit and suffer from bad judging in equal measure.

    I've heard some say that Ramirez basically threw the Mancini fight. Although this seems crazy, it does account for how a fighter as good as Ramirez looked so awful against a guy like Ray, who he should have beaten. At the very least it does appear that JLR put for forth VERY minimal effort.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Ramirez fought far better against Arguello, and was robbed IMO.

    I thought Floyd beat Castillo close but clear, don't really see the fuss over that one.

    You hit the nail on the head, though I suppose that Chavez would've beaten Ramirez over 10 as well. Chavez had the better career and consistency. Ramirez was still a ****ing good fighter.
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ramirez was so damn slow.
     
  11. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Honestly Chavez probably could've stopped Ramirez fairly easily in that fight. He had him at one point, round four or five, all but out on his feet but let up. Couldn't miss with that right.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Well Ramirez beat Whittaker and Chavez could only hold him to a draw :good
     
  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    :patsch I mean Chavez could've beaten Arguello!
     
  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was like what are you talking about Flea... now it makes sense.
     
  15. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't bait me luf :good